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Autism and Asperger's syndrome: adults lack services

Posted: 06 February 2008

Jenny's story

Husband and wife David* and Christine* haven't had a night out together since their daughter Jenny* was born. New parents will be able to relate to this. But Jenny is now in her twenties and her parents still daren't leave her for more than an hour. For despite having an IQ of 130, Jenny has Asperger's syndrome and, while she has immense intellectual skills, she finds it impossible to learn any life skills.

As a developmental disorder resulting in difficulties with social interaction and communication, autism is neither a learning disability nor a mental health problem. This has led to autistic adults falling between the two services: learning disability teams refuse to become involved where someone's IQ is too high - it needs to be below 69 to qualify for a service - while mental health teams turn these individuals away because they don't fulfil their criteria either. Some people with autism will have an accompanying learning disability or mental health problem which may qualify them for a service, although this will generally be for the accompanying disability and not for the problems associated with autism.

How many adults with autism?

There are an estimated 300,000 adults with autism in England alone. But with government, local authorities and primary care trusts unaware of exactly how many adults with autism there are, it makes it difficult to plan and deliver the services they need.

The National Autistic Society (NAS) believes a government-funded prevalence study is what's needed. It says numbers with autism - not just those receiving services - should be counted locally, and autism training for staff who carry out care needs assessments is also required.

According to I Exist, NAS's report published this week as part of its campaign to focus on how the needs of autistic adults are ignored, 45% of councils have no process for managing how autistic adults receive support if they don't fulfil the criteria for either learning disability or mental health services (see box). As a result, adults like Jenny and her parents, are left to cope alone.

Jenny wasn't diagnosed until she was 15, by which time she'd been through three secondary schools because of bullying, been written off by teachers as a troublemaker and tried to commit suicide. This led to the mental health team getting involved, and they still see Jenny every three months. But they know little about autism and there is no active support.

Although Jenny receives direct payments, there are no appropriate services to purchase. She'd like to have a personal assistant to help her live more independently and give her parents a break, but has been unable to find anyone trained in Asperger's. Christine warns that, without this understanding, any PA "would be offended quickly by what Jenny says and leave".

Medical model

Support - financial or otherwise - is elusive. "Professionals can't understand that my daughter can't cook a meal but could write a report on the Russian revolution," Christine says. "Trying to prove your case for incapacity benefit - where they use a medical model of disability as the criteria - is so unjust.

"The big tragedy with Asperger's is that they know they have the condition and what it is and they can't do anything about it. That's where depression and frustration come in."

Christine wants Asperger's-specific training for staff. "There should be talking therapy support and, spinning off from that, courses on independent living skills, social skills, sexuality and relationships, money management and anger management," she says. "Supported housing and employment training should be available too. This would make people's lives 100% better. It's getting professionals to understand what is needed."

Christine knows she isn't asking the impossible because these services are available in some local authorities. For example, the multi-agency Liverpool Asperger Team, established in 2003, is funded by the local authority and the Central Liverpool primary care trust. It comprises a team manager (who is also a speech and language therapist), two community nurses, two clinical psychologists, an assistant psychologist, a social worker, two support workers, an assistant clinician and an administrator.

Team manager Christine Austin says more than 400 people have been referred for assessment and intervention and most arrive with no prior diagnosis and have never had contact with any services, showing what a hidden condition it is. The team has even diagnosed three people in their sixties.

"Our clients don't make waves," says Austin, explaining how they have been overlooked for so long. "They're not happy but they aren't causing anyone any problems, and many live with their families who support them."

Anne's story

Anne Wheeler wasn't diagnosed with high functioning autism until she was 30. Now 44, she lives independently in a housing association flat provided by the mental health team. At the moment things are going well, with support from a consultant psychiatrist, a GP, a community support organisation and the NAS employment agency Prospects.

But she has a history of depression and mental health problems and partly attributes this to a lack of support for her autism. She struggled to be diagnosed because she had a degree and seemed relatively independent.

"Local authorities need to see that someone's life is in a mess," Wheeler says. "But I'm very organised so don't tick any of their boxes. Because I don't look ill they don't know what to do. There's a place for a specific autism worker in each local authority."

Wendy Atkinson agrees. As Oldham's assistant locality manager for adult autism services, she is that person. It is no coincidence that her local authority has obtained autism accreditation from NAS for its supported tenancy provision and day and respite services.

Oldham training

Oldham Council has invested in multi-agency autism training so that, whether a service user needs a speech and language therapist, a psychologist, a health professional or a drama therapist, they understand the needs of people with autism.

The council was also a pilot for the In Control scheme, and several autistic adults have been helped to use their budgets to buy support services and employ a PA. It also provides supported housing. Those with Asperger's or higher functioning autism are supported by the vulnerable adults team.

All this is galling for parents like Christine who are offered nothing. "I'm so angry with the system and society that they are not even giving my daughter a chance," she says. "Because they aren't accommodating her disabilities she is barred from things that everyone else takes as a right - it's discrimination."

However, she refuses to give up hope. "I have to believe that things will change at some point. That's what keeps me going, plus the love for my daughter. How can I not keep challenging the system? And by doing it for her, I'm doing it for others."

A year ago Christine found her daughter looking at internet suicide sites. Jenny plans to kill herself when her parents die because she has no other relatives or friends to turn to. "Jenny thinks 'who will love me when you've gone'," she says.

This is a sad indictment of the world that many autistic adults are living in.
ADULTS WITH AUTISM

# 61% of adults with autism rely on their families for financial support
# 40% live at home with their parents.
# 82% say that with more support they would be less isolated.
# 67% have experienced anxiety and 55% depression because of a lack of support.
# 60% of parents say a lack of timely support has resulted in their son or daughter having higher support needs in the long term.

Source: An NAS survey of 1,400 people in England for I Exist. Go to http://www.think-differently.org.uk

I wonder if there's anything like the Liverpool Asperger Team here in the US. Even if there WERE, I doubt it'd be anywhere near me, where I am now or where I'm going to college.

I get worried sometimes about how I'm going to get along on my own. And it's not as if my parents are going to be able to move to the state I'm moving to, they'll be in New York where my mom can live in her grandmother's house.
While I think that a lack of services is certainly a problem that needs to be addressed, I thought that this article was unfairly negative.

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For despite having an IQ of 130, Jenny has Asperger's syndrome and, while she has immense intellectual skills, she finds it impossible to learn any life skills.


While I don't know this particular individual's situation, this makes it sound like people with Asperger's can't learn to take care of themselves.

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"The big tragedy with Asperger's is that they know they have the condition and what it is and they can't do anything about it. That's where depression and frustration come in."


I know that I have Asperger's and I wouldn't want to do anything about it. It's just sad that ignorance and a lack of support make people feel this way.

I wonder how usual it would be for an adult with such a high IQ and Asperger's to not be able to be left for more than a hour on their own?
I've just seen a solicitor to try to get the PCT to get off their backsides. I hope it goes all the way to the High Court...
In the US, people with disabilities can stay in the school until their 22nd birthday (longer with special approval). The schools have to foot the bill for services identified for the student to access educational curriculum identified through IDEA whether they can afford it or not.  The schools are not adequately funded, but are legally libal, and they do get sued.  After that, ADA has section 504 which gives protection to people of all ages identified as having a handicapping disbility, but it has no teeth - so the money goes to many other items in state budgets such as the penal system and military.  Adults services get a negligible amount.  

Personnally feel that recognising schools as the primary place for socialization that they've become can lower the costs to society by stemming negative, criminal behavior in future adults - and fund schools as needed.  Then money can go to people who are trying to succeed and need help with specific challenges.  The ability to influence future adults is most efficient in early education and elementary schools, especially when the parents are part of the programming.

One of the fabulous outcomes of NCLB is that schools, FOR THE FIRST TIME, are accountable for educating kids from LSE backgrounds.  This is huge for the future of USA.  The definition of "Highly Qualified" needs to include expertise in setting up responsive classrooms and the ability to draw marginalized parents into the school community.  An educated, well-respected, child who has gradually learned to take responsibility for his or her actions is simply not going to enter the penal system (at about $25,000/year 2003 dollars - and this does not take in the monetary and emotional cost of the crimes committed by perpitrators).  Several thousand years of imprisoning people have demonstrated that it is not a deterent.  The government really needs to step up to the plate and support schools in ths endeavor.

Then we can afford to fund adult services....
ive heard that people with AS sometimes get misdiagnosed with or have dyslexia is that true?
ive been reading up on it ever since i saw some symptoms that fit my to a T
but the drs say i dnt have it 1 said it only based on the fact i looked him in the eyes which i now know is a load of crap
id love to hear more on the Liverpool Aspergers team as im in liverpool it will b easy 4 me to get a referal to them

phill_liverpool Wrote:
ive heard that people with AS sometimes get misdiagnosed with or have dyslexia is that true?
ive been reading up on it ever since i saw some symptoms that fit my to a T
but the drs say i dnt have it 1 said it only based on the fact i looked him in the eyes which i now know is a load of crap
id love to hear more on the Liverpool Aspergers team as im in liverpool it will b easy 4 me to get a referal to them


Hello phill - welcome to AFF.  I've had a number of people (professionals and others) raise the myth that Aspies can't make eye contact.  The issue is largely that we don't make eye contact as often as NTs, because we don't get the same information from it as NTs.  I was working on that issue long before I got a diagnosis - I knew people thought I was 'shifty' and I knew I wasn't, so eventually steered myself towards practising it.  I can freak people out by now by making too much eye contact...

I also had a doctor, some years ago, (not my usual GP) insist that I wasn't depressed because of the set of my shoulders...I should have been more slumped, I think.  But I was only out of my bed and out of the house because I was having a tiny window of drive and determination - to get to a GP and get some help...which I was denied because I was capable of asking for it...

Good luck in liverpool - there's nothing round our way, and despite it being one of the richest counties in the country, they're cutting mental and health and learning difficulty budgets.

Can I be a curmudgeon, while I'm here, and ask you not to post in txtspk?  It's courteous to the group to give the impression that you think posting here is worth enough time to press two keys rather than one (be/b) or even three rather than one (for/4).  There is no character limit on posts (trust me, I'd have found it by now if there was...), so no need to save space.  Additionally, I think some users might easily find it hard to read - we are of mixed ages and abilities, and the use of numbers as words might easily confuse.

Dare I say - I am going to focus only on one or two lines from the article... "Husband and wife David* and Christine* haven't had a night out together since their daughter Jenny* was born. New parents will be able to relate to this. But Jenny is now in her twenties and her parents still daren't leave her for more than an hour."  Of course I am not meaning to presume that I know anything about their life from oen article - here's the BUT: but, I think that parents (all) that made a "Choice" every day is a new day, a Choice to not leave their child "ever" with a baby sitter, when younger- whatever age "younger" means to you, (hey we didn't leave our kids with one besides thier grandmother until our oldest was 10) - I submit that it is the {Parent that chose to not facilitate that - why wait until a person is 20 years old to allow for the possiblity - That is just poor planning (in my opinion) Some parents, I think, just like the "martyr" role - I would blame the parents for not spending a few YEARS when their child was still a child - getting her used to another caregiver - I believ in parents rights of course - but it seems too pitiful - and maybe they are looking fo rpity, to say that in 20 years they hadn't thought to prepare their daughter to ever be without her parents.  Better planning is in order.  They are being unfair to her - just so they can get a line in an article showing their "extreme" circumstances where they say poor us "we haven't had a night out alone together since".  I say that is not an autistic childs fault anymore than it would be any other childs fault if her parents weren't bright enough to make plans.
I hesitate to express an agreement with your sentiments, atypical - but yes, parents come in many forms and even those with the best intent and 'perfect' ( Tongue ) offspring are still only ever trying, and very often failing, to 'do the right thing'.

In this case, however, it's worth remembering that this is a piece of journalism we're referring to - there's every chance that, at most, the parents unwittingly nodded along to the journalist's 'quote', if it were even suggested to them that they 'might say' something the journalist thought made for a good story.

jiggeryqua Wrote:
I hesitate to express an agreement with your sentiments, atypical - but yes, parents come in many forms and even those with the best intent and 'perfect' ( Tongue ) offspring are still only ever trying, and very often failing, to 'do the right thing'.

In this case, however, it's worth remembering that this is a piece of journalism we're referring to - there's every chance that, at most, the parents unwittingly nodded along to the journalist's 'quote', if it were even suggested to them that they 'might say' something the journalist thought made for a good story.


Well, I was going to leave bit of unfortunate human nature (of some)out of it.  An absolute as to "never" (an absolute) seemed highly unlikely and I was brought up to see thru propaganda (most things written can't be believed) and flags were raised on many a line in that article.
I am sure the aprents are doing the best that they are able.  Abilities do vary.

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