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I would try it if I knew I could go back to who I am now, with no side effects. But I think thats got more to do with having quite a curious nature about life on the other side of the fence, as it were, in all aspects. Not just AS/NT.
I would try it once if I knew i could go back. I don't want to sacrficie who i am but itd be interesting to see how the rest of the world perceivs things.
I don't think it'll work.

As for the autism pill, I don't think it'll work as well.
I don't see the problem...I would never take in permently, nor do i want to be NT, but I think it would be interesting to see how a NT sees things for a couple hours, what is the big deal?

Gareth Wrote:

Puckorz Wrote:
I don't see the problem...I would never take in permently, nor do i want to be NT, but I think it would be interesting to see how a NT sees things for a couple hours, what is the big deal?


2 issues:
1 - If you take it a few times and it leaves any minor lasting effects (which is quite likely if it alters enough neural pathways to make an autistic brain act NT) then these lasting effects will be cumulative. This is why I asked if anyone can cite a medical journal so I can read up on the mechanism of action and study this more.

2 - Every person who willingly takes any drug is supporting the manufacturers/inventors of that drug further and funding further development of it. Don't kid yourself into thinking that such a drug will remain forever optional, it WILL be forced onto people, children at first (if it gets approved for usage in minors, otherwise it'll have lesser uptake but still happen), eventually it could very well be a case of "take your autism meds or we cut off all services and support and/or put you in an institution".


1: This is a good point, abilt unproven and theoretical.

2:...Don't get me wrong, I never said i would buy it, but if someone gave it to me to test it out I would like to see what it was like.

But I'd be damned if they tried to force it on people, I would rather die then allow my freedom to be who I am to be comprimised. If that's the case then i would take to streets like so many others would, that sort of thing i would not tolerate. I would fight against that with every fiber of my being. Don't get me wrong, it'd be nice to see how an NT thinks, but i would not if it meant the Autistic community being crippled, and destroyed.

Gareth Wrote:
1 - please if anyone knows of any journal articles about this drug, cite them
2 - if you were given one, someone else has already paid for it

If you support these kinds of drugs, you are supporting the destruction of autism, and as a consequence the autistic community.


If someone paid for it before they gave it to me, then taking it would make no difference at all, would it?


Don't accuse me, or others of supporting the destruction of Autisim. We love who we are, and we love our community.

Gareth Wrote:
Puckorz - if someone has paid for it and given it to you, it could be because they wanted you to try it, or you trying it could result in them purchasing more, or it could result in a general view that "hey, autistics are alright with this stuff".

You aren't conciously supporting the destruction of autism, but "just trying it" with this drug is exactly that sadly.


Of course I would explicitly state the fact that I didn't want them to buy anymore, and that I was not looking for a cure but an understanding. It's not like it could ever happen anyway, because few people even know I'm autistic I'm talking theoretically.

Maybe you think to lowly on NT's, I'm not stupid enough to take it if i could see malicious intent behind it, only if i knew it was just for understanding.

I would just like to see how they do all those things (chat, know what to wear, entertain, think in real time, ect) that are soooo confusing!!!

Gareth Wrote:
I would totally refuse it, I'm disappointed that so far people have been voting yes. Remember that alcohol (a known neurotoxin, this is why it causes such bad drunken behaviour) can temporarily "cure" autism too.


I didn't know that alcohol could cure autism.  I don't think it ever helped me!!

No. On both questions. I like me the way I am. >.< If you were to take a pill, even temporarily, your whole psyche would most likely be out of whack. And I'd just never take. I adopt NT mannerisms by observing them. <.< They're just encouraging the idea of a perfet utopian society where no-one speaks out or are just idiotic. *sighs*

And the "Autism pill" is giving me a good laugh. Big Grin Heh, funny NTs...

Yggdrasil Wrote:
No. On both questions. I like me the way I am.


When I am home with my dogs, I enjoy who I am - I like myself!  When I am at work, then who I am gives me incredible anxiety.

All this pill appears to be doing is fulfilling some NTs stereotype of autism.  I was fantasizing walking into a group of coworkers and saying something that made sense in the moment to them.  Maybe something casual that had absolutely no relavence to work.  Not being terrified that an innocent remark on my part would offend someone.

Gareth Wrote:
I know already that I am inferior in many ways, but superior in many other ways and it's the latter that matter.


Its the loneliness of it.  I can smugly tell myself that, but everyone is ignoring me because I am a poor conversationalist at the least or more likely because I am wierd.  It is the rare NT who is thinking about how my strengths over balance my weeknesses.

Gareth Wrote:
I don't care for the most part whether others care about my strengths. I use my strengths and work to overcome my weaknesses.



You are very fortunate in that self-belief Gareth. It took me a long time to get to that level, and a lot of depressive episodes. There are lots of us out there who never get to that stage...

TheUsualSuspect Wrote:
yes i would try it. if i liked it yes i would take it permanently.
i have 1 thing i wanna say after reading all these threads to garreth. you use words that make it sound like your speaking for the whole and not just yourself alot. i dont believe after reading everyones post that everyone has the same idea's as you. heck as the vote stands right now over 50% of the people would try it. i dont wanna come off wrong with these comments but dude you need to chill out cause your sorta like no no no no and that finals and everyone elses opinion dont matter. just my 2 cents dont hate me.



thing is, i personally dont think people have thought through the concequences of this; and the thing is, its "people who would try it", not keep taking it. and its not over 50%, there is one vote in it thus far.

rossco Wrote:
Try to chat up a girl.....yes give me NT drugs. Give me a taste to navigate the non-literal NT maze of seeing the subtle indicators to a path to successful dating.
Would I want it every day? No. But an occasional glimpse or ability to strengthen my weaknesses when required would be nice.


I voted for trying it, but there's meds already out there for social anxiety, etc, but I have only toyed with the idea of taking them - never have, probably never will.  I am only a problem when I leave my four walls.

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