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EvilZakkie Wrote:

Very few people are open to the idea that homosexuality is immoral, or that LFA's are all poop smearers. I, for one, think this is a good thing.

I really think that people place too much emphasis on whether or not someone has made personal attacks. There's far worse things to do, and there are cases where personal attacks, where truthful, are appropriate. For example, calling a racist person a bigot is appropriate.


I like you lots evil - but this is where you and I differ - people can think whatever they want - I couldn't care less - but personal attacks really rub me up the wrong way. In my view personal attacks are never appropriate - attack the idea -not the person.
I really like the way LC speaks of his girlfriend - he more or less backed down a little on the abortion thread - almost seeming to agree it was appropriate before the 3 month stage - I haven't read the other threads in detail - but I did notice his apology - another good character trait - the ability to admit a mistake and apologise speaks very highly of someones integrity.
sometimes in social communication small talk is damn hard ....

I will agree - two wrongs don't make a right.
They were New Zealanders weren't they - Orville and wilbur Wright - first to invent and fly an airplane. *smiles patriotically* Wink
Did I - can't remember.

Eoin Wrote:
Are there any disciplinary procedures in this site? As descipable as I find the comments under discussion (and trust me, they go against my core philosophy), I was wondering if a temporary ban of say, one month, would be possible, with a guarantee that it would be made permanent if such behaviour continues. I don't exactly know why, but I always feel reluctant to do the proverbial thumbs-down at the arena...

(even though, if someone deserved it, this would be the case)


In your philosophy - in the moral philosophy thread - you stated "it is none of my business what the rest of the world thinks" yet want a guy banned because of his personal beliefs.

I don't get it.

What's a knobend? I have never heard this term before.

EvilZakkie Wrote:

I agree with this completely. In this case, I think that any individual person could choose not to be offended by LC's statements - however, in order to make the site a welcoming place for new people that may arrive, this sort of bigotry cannot be allowed.

His comments add nothing to the site, and take away from the enjoyment of the site by the groups he is targeting. Therefore, he should have no place here.


My interpretation - this site is about tolerance and acceptance - does this tolerance and acceptance only relate to those who fit with the accepted norms - dictated by the majority.

Yeah - okay - but Logical conclusion in one of his first posts in the gay thread, made it clear  these were just his thoughts and values - and what other people did was up to them.  He more or less stated he didn't care what other people did.

Name calling and personal attack (not from you Eion) heat up discussions - things get said that aren't alway meant.
Also - sometimes it is really hard not to take on the attitudes of society - negative attitudes included - open communication and quiet reason is a way to change attitudes. Shutting down communication gains nothing.
I don't have a problem with others right to disagree at all - everyone has right to an opinion.  

Just as I do.

You use very strident words - inflamatory words.

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ocampo Wrote:
Here's a thought, illogical.

NO-ONE GIVES A FLYING *** WHAT YOU THINK. NO-ONE CARES IN THE REAL WORLD; AND NO-ONE CARES ON AN INTERNET FORUM EITHER.

You are a sad, lonely little individual who blames the entire world except yourself for your own inadequacy. If the Aspergian movement needs to do anything, its to absolve itself of people like you, who are social rejects not because of Aspergers, but because their persona innately sucks. You think everyone here is illogical and you're the supreme being who is the being only logical one here? Get a grip. People have tried to help you on this forum time and time again and if you had one scrap of logic in that tiny little skull of yours, you would recognise that. People that may have listened to your point of view laugh at you, mock you, and deride you publically and in PM. You get yourself reported repeatedly, not for what you say, but for your pathetically condescending, arrogant, 'factually' biased crap. Any 'logic' you might have brought to the table has long faded, because people do not associate you with intellectualism, academia or anything positive.

They associate you with being a fuckwit. Congratulations.


GO OCAMPO! GO OCAMPO! GO OCAMPO! GO OCAMPO!  

To be honest LC I think you should listen to what everyone is saying here

GO AWAY!

homophobic and that old "gays cause AIDS" Bullshit are not *repeat* NOT appreciated here.


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I think Flardox is about fifteen.

These are the kind of posts I find objectionable - these are the type of posts that do nothing to promote the cause of this forum.

How do you define bigotry zacchie?
I just want to understand - if your understanding of the word matches mine.

Eoin Wrote:
I can appreciate your position Lucie.

I've observed the whole issue without actively participating (until now), and it's been sad to watch. His introduction made it clear that we are not dealing with a troll, but someone like us who probably sought this site for the same reason we all do.

It's been a bit of a chain reaction, and no one seems to know how to control it now. First he's put in some inflammatory comments, then he's been forced into a corner as such comments were attacked. And as is typical of a cornered creature (I mean no disrespect, just extending the metaphor), the attacks became even more vicious, and they've elicited a harsher response. The whole thing is really rather tragic.

That said, I can also understand the other side. I guess people expect a supportive environment in this site, and certain attitudes presented threaten this balance. I'd wager a lot of us know what being bullied feels like, and I can see how people might feel similarly because of certain posts.


I agree with you completely -- although - I have a feeling Logical conclusion may feel bullied and ganged up against. I read his one of his initial posts where he implied what other people do is up to them - these aren't the words of a bigot.
The posts make me feel sad as well.
Social communication isn't easy - I would like it if people could allow people a little grace - we all have our struggles.

The Nazi's tried to imply their philosophy onto others through violent means - there were intolerant and bigoted. They did not respect beliefs or values that were different to their own.

I don't understand the relevance of the pipebomb story to this thread / are you making a link in regard to the use of violence and abuse to win argument - or drive home a home a point of view?
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