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In the US there are differences between colleges and universities (the latter tend to be significantly larger and more research-oriented, as mentioned above). Additionally, most large universities are made up of smaller individual colleges. We still say "going to college" for attendance of college as well as university, however; you'll never hear anyone say "going to uni" here. In this case, "Some college/Finished college" also includes university attendance.
A university also offers graduate (beyond college) courses in addition to undergraduate (college) courses (in the USA) doesn't it?
It also makes the alumni contribute more.  But not me.

Clear cut, Shepherd College (or present day Shepherd University) only earned me about $13,000 (1998) because of certain Federal employment- and admitted me to graduate school.

My research-related employment with Marshall University actually has to be considered a financial loss against the total loans I took while there- $5 borrowed for every $1 earned.  Effectively it was a failure when it came time to convince human beings in Washington D.C. of what I could do in applied social and evaluation research.  It is not the same as saying that I would not have made a good applied social or evaluation researcher- we will never know in Washington D.C.- but the statistical modeling with Dr. Robert Bickel in Huntington WV and the criminal justice-related grant proposal writing, evaluation research goal and objective writing, literature review writing, data entry and data analysis with West Virginia Statistical Analysis Center under Marshall University Research and Economic Development Center seemed VERY PROMISING.

So what the human beings in the Maryland Department of Rehabilitation Services decided was to give up on research and to run with computer programming, and gave me 22 credit hours of college credit in computer programming courtesy the Maryland taxpayer.  It was not very hard, I was used to the routine, the hardest part was believing that this academic commitment would pay off this time.
It is hard to commit and win when you have committed and lost before, but for me, the college --> graduate school --> community college sequence did work for me.

The only direct costs of the community college to my mother and I were certain transportation expenses between Baltimore and West Virginia (where she was at) and her full subsidy of my Federal Blue Cross Blue Shield (I retained the BCBS I had as a Federal employee the previous year, if you do lose your Federal job and you are able to afford it, maybe with a parent, look into temporary continuation of coverage TCC or COBRA).  I finally discontinued TCC when I started the job I have now (the MAMSI managed care plan first, now we are under Anthem BCBS)

Health insurance is a biggie, glad I've had it for ten years, thank God
Forgot-- one word about TCC.  The Federal government subsidizes some of the cost of health insurance for employees.  For TCC, forget that.  You're paying the full rate, and actually more, a surcharge for administrative.  But you're getting health insurance.
In the United States, if you have the GPA quota and/or the standardized test score quota, you make the college/university look good, so they admit you.  Admission means you have the right to pay tuition (the school doesn't care where you get the money, your own, mom or dads, borrow it from the department of education, a bank, loan shark, steal it from a bank), but you pay it UP FRONT, and take classes.  

It is reasonably likely with your hard work that you will pass classes and get a degree.

But the job interview is tough for Aspies, and often your social appearance counts for more than your piece of paper.  That is why I used to hate NT job interviewers too, once.
Yes, CJ, you are correct.  We do.  When you finish or when you cease to maintain one half of full-time course load.
Colleges and universities always get paid up front before classes start.  I guess it is so they can pay the professors and the utilities and the bureaucrats.
A technical school in the US is not considered the same level of education as a GED (as it is in the poll).  A two year associate degree can be considered "finishing" at a professional college. For example, a computer school might have the same credited classes as a 4 year liberal arts college except that the only classes/hours included are the ones directly related to a computer career ... without the classes in physical education, French, Drama, Sociology, Literature, etc. Sometimes it is the only place to get the more  advanced classes in a particular technical field which would not be offered at a liberal arts college.

GuessWho Wrote:
Colleges and universities always get paid up front before classes start.  I guess it is so they can pay the professors and the utilities and the bureaucrats.


I stand corrected.  A few have payment plans during the semester.  But generally, the college usually gets paid before classes begin, and the Federal government Dept. of Ed. eventually gets its loans paid back.

You don't pay upfront, you may borrow from the Department of Ed if you are a citizen or permanent resident.  (Your funeral)

We have trade schools.  For example, DeVry advertises on television I think for engineering and/or computers.  Strayer University has local campuses for computer studies.  Usually technical schools are more streamlined than the traditional liberal arts college: it does not have the 47 hours of liberal arts I had to take at Shepherd University: math (3), lab science (8), sociology (3), government (3), economics (3), history (6), grammar/composition (6), literature (6), gym (2), music (2), art (2), and for Bachelors of Arts, unless waived for previous coursework or skills, foreign language.

You misunderstand?

It might be the equivalent of 47 hours per week for a whole semester but this is over the course of four semesters if you take it all at once as I did (put off choosing major minor).  Some even take it longer while they take their major/minor.  

But I see your point, tech schools are better for Aspies who dislike 47 hours of crap, yes.

Janet Wrote:

Pakrat Wrote:
There wasn't anything like 47 hours a week lectures and tutorials. I think if anybody seriously proposed such an idea they would have a riot on their hands!


A three credit course is three hours a week, so a full-time student would have 12 hours of class/lecture a week.  Some take more, some less.

That sounds more like it! I don't know where Chris got his figure from.

GuessWho Wrote:
It might be the equivalent of 47 hours per week for a whole semester but this is over the course of four semesters if you take it all at once as I did (put off choosing major minor).  Some even take it longer while they take their major/minor.  


It usually takes three or four semesters to finish your General Studies and that is if you take General Studies first.

aprilbaker Wrote:
 I will earn an M.A. in Quaker studies at the graduate level.


What exactly is "Quaker studies"?  I'm curious.

law school + doctorate; the grades were relatively moderate in relation to my IQ scores, though
In the United States colleges and universities don't care, they'll take the best students they can get their hands on, as long as the students or their parents can pay, payment is not the school's problem.  There is always a college or universty for everybody as long as he or she is a high school graduate or GED.  As far as the SAT/ACT, that requirement may be waived for students (like at my college) if the high school graduating class was more than five years ago.
I've just completed a bachelor in behavioural neuroscience (BNS) and I am working on the honours degree. Half way through it Big Grin So it's in between undergrad and post grad I guess Tongue
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