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The media is still spouting the lie about her being in a vegetative state, too, which has been completely discredited, it's a complete lie. I am afraid that she will be VERY aware of the torture of being dehydrated and starved! It's murder by torture of the worst kind. What has she done to deserve that? And what have her parents and siblings done that they have to watch her die this awful death? It's going to be terribly traumatic for her loved ones and everybody around her.

I just hope that somebody is going to stop it. And that judge should be shot (sorry, but I think some people are too evil to be alllowed to live). Well, I don't really mean that in the literal sense. But somebody with a heart of stone shouldn't be a judge, making life and death decisions at any rate.
This whole case has me sickened to my stomach, I hope they find a way to stop this and stop future incidents that could happen. If she does die, I hope her families sues him for every last penny he ever gets from the insurance policy. He said on TV. "Terri is my life." If that's the case, why did you move on with another woman and have a family? Why did you deny potential therapy that would have helped her and all? Why no divorce? Why are you torturing her and her family? Maybe he's the one that should be starved to death in my opinion or tried for attempted murder in order to profit from the person's death.
That is the most sickening part of it, that he wants her dead to get the money. Why couldn't he just divorce her, and leave her care to her family? They WANT to look after her! The insurance money was for looking after her, not for enriching her evil husband. So, now he has her killed to get the money. What is the matter with that stupid judge that he doesn't care about that?

Another thing is, that George Bush is against starving Terri to death (or so he says). So, he is the president, can't he stop it? You would think he has the power to stop her being murdered like that!

Uschi Wrote:
That is the most sickening part of it, that he wants her dead to get the money. Why couldn't he just divorce her, and leave her care to her family? They WANT to look after her! The insurance money was for looking after her, not for enriching her evil husband. So, now he has her killed to get the money. What is the matter with that stupid judge that he doesn't care about that?

Another thing is, that George Bush is against starving Terri to death (or so he says). So, he is the president, can't he stop it? You would think he has the power to stop her being murdered like that!


I so fully agree with you. I hope whether Terri lives or dies that somehow he is brought to criminal justice in some form or sued by her family till he can't afford to support his 'new' family and has to suffer from a miserable life. If there is a hell, may he have a place reserved.

The actual site for Terri Schindler-Schiavo's fight for life is at http://www.terrisfight.org It has a lot of legal documentation and all from the case, the articles in the news and many other things.
Yeah he could divorce her, a really rich guy offered him a million if he'd turn over things to her parents and he refused it. Terri is not his life, his new 'woman' and his kids with her are.  He just wants the money for him and his new girlfriend to start of a marriage with. He should be starved to death.
Well now its in the hands of the federal courts whether the tube gets put back in or not.  The bill may have allowed them to take the case to federal court but if they turn it down, it's going to be even more of a sad day than Michael Schiavo is claiming it'd be. Of course, it would allow Terri's parents to sue his butt and hopefully legislation put in to make something like this illegal and punish his behind. Sad

Brightman Wrote:
Shocking Affidavit From Terri's Nurse

He (Michael Schiavo) would call me, as I was the nurse supervisor on the floor, and ask for every little detail about her temperature, blood pressure, etc., and would call back frequently asking if she was dead yet. He would blurt out "I'm going to be rich!," and would talk about all the things he would buy when Terri died, which included a new car, a new boat, and going to Europe, among other things.

From: http://www.rense.com/general63/aff.htm

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No shock at all really... what an @$$!

What gets me is if Michael and her family really wants to prove beyond a doubt and all to the courts for or against her case, allow a medical re-evaluation as a final say in the matter and then at least give her the dignity criminals and animals are afforded that they aren't giving her. A quick painless death with dignity. Starving is murder simple as that in my opinion. Michael has disallowed medical treatment and evaluation for so long, we really don't know what has happened in the 15 years or what has or has not changed or could or could not change with help. All these drs. can say all they want but unless they examine her again after all this time, how can they be so sure on things other than just saying well she's in this state, no point in bothering, how a dr. could agree that starving a patient is ok by their oaths baffles me?

Why after 2 months of trying to help her and seeing no real improvement did he give up as soon as he had some money in his account and then suddenly he started stating this was her 'decision' and not claim it from the start? 2 months is very little time for therapy and recovering in the long term when other cases of people coming out of comas take years before real improvement happens... what if there is something that is being hidden by him or something that nobody might have noticed that caused everything in the first place? I know we'll never know but could he be trying to cover things up just in case. I know it's speculation and such but this whole case is disturbing and facts don't all seem to be put together logically in some ways.
Agency Seeks Probe of Schiavo Allegations
http://abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter/wir...?id=551280

TAMPA, Fla. Mar 4, 2005 — The state's social services agency is seeking to delay the removal of a brain-damaged woman's feeding tube so it can investigate about 30 new allegations of "abuse, neglect or exploitation" by her husband, according to a court document made public Friday.

In a petition filed last week, the Department of Children & Families said it received the abuse and neglect allegations through its anonymous abuse hot line. It sought a 60-day stay blocking the removal of 41-year-old Terri Schiavo's feeding tube, now scheduled for March 18.

Schiavo's husband, Michael Schiavo, has been engaged in a bitter legal fight to remove the tube, arguing that she did not want to be kept alive artificially. Her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, have fought to keep her alive, contending that she had no such end-of-life wishes and is not in a vegetative state as court-ordered doctors have determined.

The department said the abuse and neglect accusations include failure to investigate experimental medical procedures; denial of legal counsel; lack of communication and visitation; and lack of manipulation of Terri Schiavo's arms, "causing severe contractures."

"The allegations … go to the heart of whether abuse, neglect and/or exploitation has been perpetrated by (Michael Schiavo)," DCF adult investigations supervisor Michael Will wrote in the petition.

Judge George Greer is expected to hear arguments next week on whether DCF should be allowed to intervene.

Michael Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, didn't immediately return a call seeking comment Friday but has said that DCF's last-minute attempt to intervene "reeks of political arm-twisting." He said previous investigations of abuse allegations against his client have failed to turn up any evidence. Michael Schiavo denies ever harming his wife.

Gov. Jeb Bush has said he is searching for a way to keep Terri Schiavo alive. DCF's attempt to intervene came as Greer moved to set a new date for removal of the feeding tube.

Bush got involved in the case in October 2003, pushing a law through the Legislature authorizing him to resume Terri's Schiavo's feedings six days after the court stopped them. The law subsequently was ruled unconstitutional.

(bolded text by me)

Now 30 cases of allegations seems an aweful lot to be done against a man that acts like he's being a saint and would never harm his wife or anything... how could so many cases be false? It seems rather unlikely.

Noetic Wrote:
Sorry but have you any idea how hard it is to care for someone in this type of condition? If her parents and her husband could not cope with this and provide her the care she needed who are you to condemn them?


No I don't, I'm very grateful I haven't but I did watch my grandmother deteriorate till her death. I was just stating in the realm of science and such, 2 months therapy and such is minor for some patients to make improvements. It takes years for some to even make the smallest improvement. That's all I was stating. We can never know if there could have ever been more improvement back then without adequate access to medical treatment and therapy. Without medical re-evaluation now, how would anyone fully know if there is anything that could be done now but her husband is even withholding that from being done, he has for years. Medical science and such has improved in 15 years. All I was saying is we can never know what was possible than or could be possible now for her because her husband is withholding the ability to find that out. It just sounds suspicious that he didn't bring up her 'desire to not live' till two months after and when he received the money it came out... just doesn't sound completely innocent to me. It may appear differently to others that's why my opinions are just mine and if you don't like them, fine.

They'd likely be better off doing an fMRI, it's a newer form of MRI not available back when the last lot of scans and such were done on Terri.

Noetic Wrote:

MishLuvsHer2Boys Wrote:
They'd likely be better off doing an fMRI, it's a newer form of MRI not available back when the last lot of scans and such were done on Terri.

Do you know whether an MRI was ever done? They only ever mention CAT scans. Understandibly if there is such extensive damage that the CAT shows a lack of brain tissue then it's bad news but I do not understand why nothing more specific was done (I could imagine her reflexive movements might make it hard to do this scan but I am sure it isn't impossible and the same problems would apply to the CAT as well!).


Well at one point a Nobel Prize winning neurologist examined her I think in 1999 at request of the parents so I imagine an MRI must have been part of it.

But the fMRI is much better and much more recent technology too and more indepth information can be gotten from it than regular MRI and CAT scan.

This is where it starts disturbing me. Terri is in PVS, so was a woman called Kate Adamson, Kate was in a more severe PVS than Terri, she had double brainstem stroke. She is alive and well even after over a week off feeding tube. She remembers everything. Maybe there is more that needs to be investigated than just politics and laws.

Her site is here: http://www.katesjourney.com/
The whole case is getting more and more suspicious the more and more I research through the legal documents and all on it... it seems Michael Schiavo and his new fiance have their own 'insurance' company out of their house. Add on the other things with him changing his statement between his original statement of how he found her collapsed and his actual testimony of how he found her collapsed in court was two different statements and then after 2 months claiming that she wanted to die when instead of making sure that happened at first, why wait that long? I just have this feeling that something isn't right at all and there is a bigger coverup going on.

Here is the info on the insurance company that Schiavo and his new fiance are part of:

http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.exe...WD&n3=0000
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