12-16-2007, 06:44 PM
Marla Singer Wrote:
Are these also classified as NTs?
According to some defintions of neurodivergent they are neurodivergent and not neurotypical.
12-16-2007, 06:44 PM
12-16-2007, 07:02 PM
Neurology apart from the norm...
12-16-2007, 07:23 PM
Symptom reduction doesn't necessarily mean that neurology has become normal.
12-16-2007, 07:38 PM
NT is code for not autistic.
Like straight is code for not gay
Lumped into NT are all sorts of variations, including psychological make-ups.
Lumped into 'straight' are all sorts of variations around sexual expression
One way to look at it is to ask whether the issues of the pertinent subgroup are of concern. Most NTs have little awareness of, or interest in, autism unless their lives are personally affected. Back in the 60s, same was true for heterosexuals relative to gays. Because NTs and heterosexuals frame the dominant social culture, autistics and gays often find themselves in a "stance against" norms. It's gotten much better for gays, but I remember what it was like 35 years ago, when, if you were gay, it was considered that something was really wrong with you.
People with AS, depending on their individual circumstances, are at variance with cultural norms and, hence, receive the criticism that something is wrong. The increasing visibility of nerd culture over the past 30 years is and will be helpful to counteract some of this.
Like straight is code for not gay
Lumped into NT are all sorts of variations, including psychological make-ups.
Lumped into 'straight' are all sorts of variations around sexual expression
One way to look at it is to ask whether the issues of the pertinent subgroup are of concern. Most NTs have little awareness of, or interest in, autism unless their lives are personally affected. Back in the 60s, same was true for heterosexuals relative to gays. Because NTs and heterosexuals frame the dominant social culture, autistics and gays often find themselves in a "stance against" norms. It's gotten much better for gays, but I remember what it was like 35 years ago, when, if you were gay, it was considered that something was really wrong with you.
People with AS, depending on their individual circumstances, are at variance with cultural norms and, hence, receive the criticism that something is wrong. The increasing visibility of nerd culture over the past 30 years is and will be helpful to counteract some of this.
12-17-2007, 01:22 AM
Oh geez, it was a legitimate question from a newbie. NT is used in all sorts of different ways here.
12-17-2007, 02:28 PM
Tigger_the_Wing Wrote:
OK, so now I've had quite enough of this. Marla, try replacing all the 'mental disorder' bits of your posts with 'black skin', or 'homosexuality', or 'femininity' and see if it makes fair reading. No? Then don't be surprised that many here find your posts aggravating.
When a group of people is sidelined by society for who they are, it is grossly unfair to suggest that the misery they feel is entirely their fault and would disappear if only they would go to therapy and learn to be like everyone else.
When a group of people is sidelined by society for who they are, it is grossly unfair to suggest that the misery they feel is entirely their fault and would disappear if only they would go to therapy and learn to be like everyone else.
Seconded.
12-17-2007, 07:41 PM
Marla Singer Wrote:
I do not like the expression "everyone else"
Get used to it.
12-17-2007, 08:14 PM
The word is invented in in the autistic community and has entered scientific language. It is very broadly used in the autistic community while not so much in other autism-related communities which obviously don't have such a high need for such a word.
If you take away the word Neurotypical the autistic community would simply need a replacement with a similar meaning.
If you take away the word Neurotypical the autistic community would simply need a replacement with a similar meaning.
12-17-2007, 08:43 PM
Well THAT I can agree upon, and yeah it is used that way sometimes but it didn't seem like it was that you were talking about earlier.
12-18-2007, 02:12 PM
Not that Marla is the someone who have done that...
12-18-2007, 03:54 PM
Generlizing people with the word autistic.
12-18-2007, 06:04 PM
Personally I visualize many kinds of characters. Maybe cuz I've heard about many.
12-20-2007, 12:43 PM
12-21-2007, 02:43 PM
12-23-2007, 12:31 PM
Yes, that one's simply brilliant.