Why so angry at us?
Nobody here is against therapy as such, but many of us have had very poor (or worse) experiences with particular therapists.
I am pleased that your bf has found a good one; sadly they are very rare.
And a lot of our problems really are due to the attitudes of others. No amount of therapy an aspie undertakes will change those attitudes. In fact, it can reinforce them as it is then the aspie who is seen to be the cause of all the problems
It takes a lot of courage to really look in to your personal issues instead of blaming everybody else.
Ooh snarky. Are you implying that the members of this forum are blaming others for their personal issues?
Nobody in this forum is against practical day-to-day help for aspies. But just about everyone here opposes a cure. There are good and bad aspects to having AS.
I've read some of the posts in these threads and I got confused. Why won't people with problems accept help? A lot of people with aspergers get depressed, often because they feel they don't fit and that they are misunderstood. Many of these people can't handle a necessary thigs like shopping, paying bills, taking care of a household, etc. Either you can see that as a luxury or feel bad because of the fact that you just live of other people.[/qoute]
Well if the help was actually there for a lot of people they might acquire of it, but seen as there are no services over you wont get any help. Sometimes getting help for depression means that the docs will stuff you full of medication just to shut you up and not even try to sort out the underlying problem. While the idea of all these wonderful services may sound great it is not always the case.
[quote=Marla Singer]My boyfriend's got aspergers syndrom and started going to a psychologist for a few months ago. I read a lot about his issues and had a meeting with his therapist. He is doing great process in the search for why he is the way he is. He's dealing with his problems and I admire him for that. It takes a lot of courage to really look in to your personal issues instead of blaming everybody else.
I am glad to hear about your boyfriend doing well, but I don't see why you need to talk to his psychologist, thought that was supposed to be confidential.
Cant figure out where the edit button is, I quoted some of my response by mistake.
This is true, most of what has been written here. I am adamantly against a "cure" - (something that would make an autistic person no longer autistic, but fully "normal", as measured by diagnostic criteria, tests, etc.) However, I am in speech therapy, which I am glad for, though I haven't gotten nearly enough services during my stay at school, considering I've been diagnosed since fourth grade and they've done hardly anything until now, 12th grade... In fact, my problem is quite the opposite of what the original poster seems to think is the goals of the people on this forum; my problem is that I'm not getting the requested help that I wanted.
The thing is, things like rocking, and little eye contact, these things really should not be attempted to be changed unless the individual REALLy wants that change for themselves. Not coerced by parents/caregivers, not because they were told they needed these things or they would be miserable failures doomed to an empty life, as so many hear (I have heard this quite enough).
A lot of us are happy to seek help when we need it, but when people try to force it on us when we don't need it, thats when we get upset. We do not need a cure the same way humans don't need a cure. How would you feel if a bunch of aliens came down and declared that they had a cure for being human? You would be angry, and so would most other people! being human is what we(species) are, and being aspie is what WE are! we don't want a "cure" because we don't need a cure.
The Wright brothers were probably autistic, and so was Einstein, so without autism, the human race would not have advanced very far. most of the things like shopping and things like that, that the majority really enjoy, wouldn't be here if it wasn't for us aspies.
So please don't go around telling us that we all need help because it isn't very nice and some people could take it the wrong way, and be angry at you. I think you are probably a very nice person, but you can't force what you believe in onto other people.
You labeled us ill, so why have a problem with people being labeled NT? What would you prefer we call you? The others, the people without autism, the people who are so called normal etc etc?
Sonic Boom hit the spot, so Marla, either you need to grow up, or get keelhauled!
how old are you ?
Marla, how helpful can someone be when they cannot even conceive of (let alone relate to) the way our brains work? NT counseling has been worse then useless for me.
Every single book on autism or AS which has been written by an NT that I have read has been riddled with misconceptions, misunderstandings, misinterpretations of our behaviors, thought process, emotional life, motivations, etc, and to put it bluntly, has been so full of BS as to be downright dangerous to ant misinformed soul who reads it.
Imagine the sort of damage that could be done by someone who actually believes all that dreck. They attribute the most bizarre stuff to us.....
I get the most help from:
1. Other autistic people. (Specific ones, not every one. But they know a lot of things about how to live in the world as autistic people, that most "experts" don't know.)
2. Actual practical services to help me with things that I have trouble doing. (If these existed for everyone who had trouble with stuff, nobody would have to live in "a home". I am lucky to live in an area that offers these services.)
I have seen more than my share of psychologists and psychiatrists, and aside from the couple of them who diagnosed me, I really haven't gotten all that much help from them (and even those two weren't all that helpful in their suggestions). They've ranged from well-meaning but not really able to assist me in any practical way, to clueless (including some supposed "experts" in autism), to flagrantly abusive. That's why I don't go to a psychologist or psychiatrist, I have no need of one, and they can do harm even when meaning to do good (and, in my experience with a lot of them, usually either do nothing good or do harm). (And this is despite being a person who has trouble taking care of myself, etc. etc.)
She came on a bit too strong IMO. I wasn't into it.
I feel a bit sorry for her boyfriend as she seems to expect too much of him. Therapy doesn't magically cure everything and some of us have already tried it and not found the right sort that would help us.
I just felt like I didn't get any straight answears. And it got frustrating when people misunderstood what I was saying. However, I'm sorry if I went on too hard, I wasn't exactly sober att the time...
so I'm sorry if I offended anyone.
ah, dont worry 
you are hardly the first to cause accidental offence, and its unlikely you will be the last 
its just, you seem a big aggressive.... and we are, generally, a very... combustible lot.
I might seem that way, it's just that I'm not good with patience... I am one of those "I want it and I want it NOW"-persons so I do get a little frustrated sometimes. Specially when I'm in the state I was back then..
Give yourself a big 'pat on the back' for apologising and explaining. That makes a huge difference, you know! (And was very brave! 
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I know there would not be Social Training Groups and specialists if people with these disabilities didn't have social problems. Or do you think I am wrong?
I wouldn't go as far as to say that you are wrong, but I do think that's a rather one-sided view. Minority groups always have had "social problems" of one sort or another when interacting with the majority culture. Just because misunderstandings occur when different kinds of people interact, that doesn't necessarily mean that people who belong to minority groups need to have their differences trained out of them so that society can more easily deal with them.
I'm not arguing that we should completely get rid of all the social training groups and specialists, as they can be helpful in some situations, but they need to be balanced with diversity training to help the majority population learn how to understand and accept differences.
The social problems are likely to be an outgrowth of a perceptual-cognitive difference that is deeper than any "social problems" the person might have, and they are also likely not to be located entirely in the autistic person, but in the interface between autistic people and non-autistic people.
To say they wouldn't have these clinics if autism weren't a social problem... sort of like saying they wouldn't have had psychiatric 'treatment' for epilepsy in the past if epilepsy weren't psychiatric. (Or for that matter, in Sweden especially the move from psychoanalytic views of autism to biological/neurological ones is much more recent than a lot of other countries, so... why would they have had psychoanalytic views and "treatments" if they weren't correct? I remember how awful it was for Gunilla Gerland when her book was published and Freudian types got hold of it and started publicly "analyzing" her.)