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Casting Aspergians

     First off Autism is not a disorder nor a disease. Autism has nothing
to do with intelligence. For example, some individuals that exhibit behavior
normally associated with low functioning people are highly intelligent.
Witness, the webmasters of autistics.org.
     Interestingly enough , Autism is genetic and polygenetic. There are a
combination genes. In other words, Autism cannot genetically traced to a
single first individual. But to a group of people.  The Autistic people
today are descendents of this lost tribe of humanity that for whatever
reason interbred with Neurotypicals tens of thousands of years ago.
     In fact it is a confirmed result that almost 80,000 years ago humanity
became almost extinct that coincides with the volcanic explosion of toba
batak. This would provide the impetus to come together and interbreed.
     Science has long thought that Neanderthals were the only other race of
intelligent humans that walked the earth. But recently they discovered the
remains of a hobbit race of intelligent humans in the pacific region.
(compare to the Hawaiian "myth" of the menehune!)
     There was a third branch lost by the mysts of history preserved in
autistic dna. This lost tribe of aspergians different enough to have a
different neurological structure, different social rules. Yet genetically
similar enough to interbreed safely - most of the time.
     You can see this even today. When High functioning autistics (HFA)
have children, they are never low functioning. When HFAs breed with those
merely with "traits", usually the offspring is HFA. When 2 NTs with traits
interbreed there is a grab bag of outcomes. - HFA, LFA and NT. When someone
with traits breeds with someone with NO traits. The outcome is NT or LFA.
     It is time for the children of the lost of tribe of aspergia to come
together and purify our race. Live in peace with NTs but as a seperate race.
    

     Editor's response: OK, so you've proven that a self-proclaimed
"aspergian" can have a sense of humor. But some of your definitions need
tweaking, if not your neurons.  First, there is a real difference between
Asperger Syndrome and autism; at least Hans Asperger thought so.  People who
are Asperger's are not autistic. They are Asperger's. Autism is a disability
requiring profound care, support and supervision.  Asperger's is not and
does not. Confusing Asperger's with autism is like confusing a hemorrhoid
with a cancerous tumor. True, both are a real pain in the butt, but come on,
if you had a cancerous tumor, you'd be talking cure, for sure. You don't
have to be an Einstein, or a Michelangelo, or a Baron-Cohen to guess that.
     Let's look at some more language. Disorder: An ailment that affects
normal, healthy functioning. Disease: An abnormal condition that impairs
normal physiological functioning.  That sounds like the autism I know.
     And then there's the term "aspergians". Have you checked to see if
this is ok to use with the descendents of Hans Asperger first?  There are
options. "Aspersioners" is not taken.  Same for "Asperins" or
"Asparagusians."
     As for Hawaiian myths, there is nothing wrong with playing with your
own wahine, if you have one.
     And just in case: these comments include exaggerations intended to
express humor and are not meant to be taken as literal statements of fact.
For a detailed description of what is intended to be funny and why, send $3
and a self-addressed stamped envelope to edit@doitnow.com.

Quote:
First, there is a real difference between Asperger Syndrome and autism; at least Hans Asperger thought so.  People who are Asperger's are not autistic.


Of course, Hans Asperger never said any such thing.  The psychologists didn't start dividing autism into different categories until about 50 years after his research.

Good job getting your point of view into that newsletter, Joe.  Maybe some of the readers aren't quite as hopelessly ignorant as Schafer.

People who are Asperger's are not autistic. They are Asperger's. Autism is a disability requiring profound care, support and supervision. Asperger's is not and does not.

He is talking absolute nonsense. Look at two kids in a special school, one with an autism dx and one with an AS dx, they can both be in the same class and need the same amount of help, but in different areas, I have witnessed this numerous times at my son's schools in the past.

You don't have to be an Einstein, or a Michelangelo, or a Baron-Cohen to guess that.

Does he think that Baron-Cohen has AS?

And then there's the term "aspergians". Have you checked to see if
this is ok to use with the descendents of Hans Asperger first? There are
options. "Aspersioners" is not taken. Same for "Asperins" or
"Asparagusians."


He just being insulting and degrading to us all.
People used to use certain terms and laugh at different races in the same way.

Amy Wrote:
People who are Asperger's are not autistic. They are Asperger's. Autism is a disability requiring profound care, support and supervision. Asperger's is not and does not.

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Amy there are aspies that require care and services that may not be the same as others. But people forget that Kanner  had what would be called aspergers today in his study as well. A point conviently forgotton

by the aspophobes like schafer

Just to clarify  AFF doesnt officially endorse the racial theory . but am fairly sure AFF endorses the point of my irony of purify the race.
Today's letters from the schafer report on the above
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Casting Aspergians

     It's a shame that these people take the difficulty we have with our
children with a grain of salt. They hate us because we try to help our kids,
like we are infringing on their turf.
     Notice that Joseph blames the parents, us inner-breeders.
We NT's have NOT messed up a race. Ever heard of Thimerosal?
     I guess they think these kids, when left alone will live and prosper
... convince me of this when my son almost died from the complications of
AUTISM at age 7.
     - Gary C., Georgia

     I love it! Your "tongue in cheek" commentaries are just too good - and
yes, a hemorrhoid is much better than a cancerous tumor ... you got my vote
there.
     - Kelli

     Lenny responds: Thank you for the applause.  But there are better ways
to discern a hemorrhoid from a cancerous tumor than by tongue in cheek.
How did I blame the parents????and as for his son almost dying from the complications from autism . The correct answer is co morbids are not autism.

Noetic Wrote:
You can't tell from what they wrote WHY their son nearly died though. He might've ended up running into the road or something so you can't know whether or not this is due to co-morbids, surely?


good point.  I made an assumption.

Now what I send a letter talking about establishing a homeland?????? LOL

"Complications" sounds like a medical term, like complications from diabetes could lead to blindness. We can only specualte what he was referring too.

Noetic Wrote:
I find it quite sad when any problems or difficulties are briskly blamed on "co-morbidities" without even knowing what they actually are.



Excuse me, but honestly. What is said this death due to complications not the fact I thought it probably was a co-morbid. And the fact  I use co morbid  is not a big deal at all.  

Nobody dies from autism, Okay

So noetic and stella give me a break.

New Letter and response from schafer  in todays schafer report
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Casting Aspergians

Please recheck your own sources. Autism is a spectrum disorder. Not all
people with autism require, as you stated, "profound care, support and
supervision."  Some people with autism are quite high-functioning. So much
so, in fact, that it is impossible to determine whether or not they fit the
label of "Asperger's" or "Autistic."  There are medical tests to determine
whether or not a patient has a hemorrhoid or a cancerous tumor. So far,
there are no medical, conclusive tests to determine where someone sits on
The Spectrum.  We rely on research, training and education.  Spreading
misinformation can only set us back.

Laurie Ender

     Editor’s response: There has been an attempt over the last decade to
redefine autism as something less than a disability. To be sure, Asperger’s
is a serious developmental disorder worthy of public support and remedial
services.  But Asperger’s is not a disability.  Asperger’s does not define
autism, disability does -- and yes, that is most certainly measurable. If
one is not disabled, one does not have autism.  Beyond parents who
understandably seek services for their family members on the spectrum, there
are now also a handful of autism impostures and their sympathizers who want
an end to the search for a cure for autism and would put themselves in the
way of those who strive for it, in their misdirected search for
self-acceptance and self esteem. “I am beautiful, autism is beautiful, so
don’t cure or fix us  --  or anyone else with autism!”
     The concept of “high functioning autism” is another recent invention
towards blurring definitions. There is not high functioning autism any more
than there are highly sighted blind people.   High functioning autism is a
contradiction with no clinical definition.  But if one is high functioning,
one doesn’t have autism.
     It is time to stop the blurring of the two disorders to serve the
agenda of one at the expense of the other.  It is time the autism awareness
franchise be removed from those who would trivialize it as something less
than the horrible disabling affliction that it is, and who attempt to
present it to the public as just another "lifestyle" we need only to
accommodate, or worse, as an excuse for criminal behavior.  The public needs
to hear loud and clear Asperger's is not autism-the-disability.  Being on
the autism spectrum does not make one autistic, it gives a person one of the
labels on the spectrum, with autism or with otherwise. But not both. –L.S.

TheASman Wrote:
....There is not high functioning autism any more
than there are highly sighted blind people.   High functioning autism is a
contradiction with no clinical definition.... –L.S.


umm there is so much here where does one begin?? First off I have met and there are people who meet the definition fo being legally blind barely yet who can see. So there are highly sighted "blind people".

And as for the second definition. Ever hear of the DSM????

We do want to help LFA. We do believe in effective humane therapy.  We want to help them to become HFA. Schafer portrays us as  monsters.

Also  who is laurie Enders?? Again this letter has the letter writer's full name as opposed to first only or first then last initial. Amy has a theory on this. And it seems she is right.

Noetic Wrote:
LOL I think Lenny has lost his marbles completely now! Maybe we should start a petition to send bags of marbles to Mr. Schafer?  8)


Sounds like a sane reasonable idea that I could spare a few pennies for.  :lol:

My theory, (it is a known theory, I didn't create it) is that when people want someone to be seen in a negative light they use the full name, as when people are arrested or presented in court, and popular, nice people get abbreviations.
Lee Harvey Oswald vs. JFK
Also supermodels get called by one name when they get very famous -
Tara, Naomi, or whatever.

Noetic Wrote:

MishLuvsHer2Boys Wrote:
Sounds like a sane reasonable idea that I could spare a few pennies for.  :lol:

Who knows his autistic kid might even enjoy them! Wink


Yeah. I know I have two kids that would enjoy them, one to play with and one to eat.  :lol:

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