11-27-2007, 04:55 AM
11-27-2007, 09:29 AM
that was interesting
12-02-2007, 07:20 AM
I have to comment that reading this and the article Tigger found, made me very angry. (This being from the perspective of, 25 years ago, having once been the pawn in a game between parents, teachers, and child psychologists.) It's well-known that "geek" traits get passed from one generation to the next, so to think that anyone I might bring into this world would likely get subjected to something far more intrusive than anything I ever had to put up with... that thought just hits a nerve.
If you're the slightest bit uncomfortable with this IBI stuff, refuse it and demand to hear alternatives. You had referred to the person suggesting IBI simply as "his workers". Are they school-appointed or other? Are you concerned of possible consequences if you refuse their advice or decide to be rude to them?
There's more I could say on this. As I write this, it's very late where I am and I'm tired, and I might say something I'll regret. So, I'll just stop here.
If you're the slightest bit uncomfortable with this IBI stuff, refuse it and demand to hear alternatives. You had referred to the person suggesting IBI simply as "his workers". Are they school-appointed or other? Are you concerned of possible consequences if you refuse their advice or decide to be rude to them?
There's more I could say on this. As I write this, it's very late where I am and I'm tired, and I might say something I'll regret. So, I'll just stop here.
12-12-2007, 04:35 PM
chamoisee Wrote:
I need to hear input from all sides on IBI: the good, the bad, and the ugly. I would like to specify IBI for this thread, not ABA.
My son has Asperger's just as I and his older brother do. One of his several workers is encouraging IBI for him. As a functional, high functioning aspie who drives, has a job and family, etc, and who appreciates and values being mentally different from normals/NTs, I have really mixed feelings about IBI. If he gets it, I would want to be present...at least at the outset.
On the other hand, I wasn't diagnosed until my thirties, and life has been a constant uphill struggle for me. I would like for him to have the tools to get by in life a little easier...but....not at the expense of his integrity as a person.
Input, please.
My son has Asperger's just as I and his older brother do. One of his several workers is encouraging IBI for him. As a functional, high functioning aspie who drives, has a job and family, etc, and who appreciates and values being mentally different from normals/NTs, I have really mixed feelings about IBI. If he gets it, I would want to be present...at least at the outset.
On the other hand, I wasn't diagnosed until my thirties, and life has been a constant uphill struggle for me. I would like for him to have the tools to get by in life a little easier...but....not at the expense of his integrity as a person.
Input, please.
How old is the son whom you were considering this for? Your last paragraph is exactly true for me (except trade thirties for forties, and I'm only half diagnosed). I had a lot of trouble growing up, but I am so grateful that I wasn't made to feel broken, and then had the experts called in to fix me. But I want my daughter to have the SKILLS to get along better in life than I have so far.
You probably don't have time for this, but if your son is still very young you can try Greenspan's Floortime approach. This is what I did with my three year old daughter, and I believe it made a very big difference. In my opinion, it has all of the advantages and none of the disadvantages of ABA/IBI. But I am a full-time stay at home Aspie mom, and she's my only child, and my special interest too!
It is impossibly difficult to make these decisions.
12-16-2007, 07:58 PM
chamoisee Wrote:
I need to hear input from all sides on IBI: the good, the bad, and the ugly. I would like to specify IBI for this thread, not ABA.
My son has Asperger's just as I and his older brother do. One of his several workers is encouraging IBI for him. As a functional, high functioning aspie who drives, has a job and family, etc, and who appreciates and values being mentally different from normals/NTs, I have really mixed feelings about IBI. If he gets it, I would want to be present...at least at the outset.
On the other hand, I wasn't diagnosed until my thirties, and life has been a constant uphill struggle for me. I would like for him to have the tools to get by in life a little easier...but....not at the expense of his integrity as a person.
Input, please.
My son has Asperger's just as I and his older brother do. One of his several workers is encouraging IBI for him. As a functional, high functioning aspie who drives, has a job and family, etc, and who appreciates and values being mentally different from normals/NTs, I have really mixed feelings about IBI. If he gets it, I would want to be present...at least at the outset.
On the other hand, I wasn't diagnosed until my thirties, and life has been a constant uphill struggle for me. I would like for him to have the tools to get by in life a little easier...but....not at the expense of his integrity as a person.
Input, please.
It probably won't harm him or make any revolutionary changes of his personality. I can't understand why someone would turn down help... it's nothing to be ashamed of, we all have our problems.. learning to deal with them in a more healthy way is something everyone should give a faiur chanse.
02-08-2008, 11:08 AM
It's discrimination full stop.
02-08-2008, 01:49 PM
chamoisee Wrote:
ABA supposedly is different from IBI as IBI is supposedly the new, gentler form with no aversives. Whether or not this is factually true is up for debate in this thread.
Well, that's good cuz whenever I hear about this repetitive behavior reconditioning stuff, the image that comes to my head is "Your name is Toby. I want to hear you say it. Your name is Toby. You're going to learn to say your name. Let me hear you say it. What's your name?"
02-09-2008, 03:59 PM
Most kids do not get 40 hours a week. My son does have ABA but its for 8 hours a week. I know some at his school that do 40 but I think that is a bit much.
erkolos Wrote:
40 hours a week...
02-09-2008, 04:15 PM
Bit much? That's waaay freaking too much!
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