Aspies For Freedom

It just occured to me reading through the Autlang thread that this is getting a little too complicated. The actual page is woefully out of date(by like, a year), and new words, grammer, etc. that people have come up with on the thread are hard to find/read, especcially when they get contradicted several pages further down the thread.

It seems to me that maybe it would be better to have some sort of wiki or something that would make this more efficient, in addition to better sperating the actual wordlists from the discussion about it.

While I might think that Autlang sounds maybe abit too ambitious I agree that a wiki would probably be a good idea. Also, how could we encourage more interest in it?

Actually, I think that just having thw wiki would make more people more interested in it--that way, you can learn some stuff without having to trawl through that whole thread

Could someone tell me what, exactly, the goal of autlang is? Is it just a collaborative conlang, or is there some deeper meaning behind it?

Because I have seen some claim that it's supposed to be logical, whilst ignoring that natural language is not logical and a language that was would be entirely too hard for use.

Also, are you starting all over or just relocating? It seems to me the basics (phonology, basic grammatical structure and syntax) should be covered first.

We have(more or less) the basics worked out already.

We're really just talking about relocating in order to make it easier/more efficient for people to work on this

Simen:  The original idea was that it could be an effective language for autistics to use (and ONLY autistics), even ones who don't speak.  Which isn't really a very realistic idea, so it kind of morphed over time.  At this point, no one is really more than a little interested in it as far as I can tell, and those who continue to be involved do so because it's fun, not because we think it could really be a more logical language that would link other autistics together.  Who knows?  If it gets far enough along, it might end up being a common language to a small group of people, which would be cool.  But without extensive research into why speech is hard for some auties, we're never going to make a language that is easier for them.

About the wiki idea:  Cool (I love wikis ), but would it work?  HOW would it work?  Would it just be for discussion of words?  Would we group similar words together on seperate wiki pages?  Would each word have it's own page?  Couldn't we just use a forum?  We could have a seperate board for people to post their new words in a new thread, where discussion could take place, and seperate boards to discuss grammar and other conventions.
Either way, a lot more thought needs to go into grammar and (most importantly) how to make new words that make sense, before we can really start generating new words.

IMHO, I think a wiki system where each word has it's own page and we also have seperate pages for discussion of grammar and other conventions, would work best.  Think about it.  Want to know if there's already a word for "egg"?  Type egg into the search bar and hit go.  If you're taken to a page that's full, then that word already exists.  If not, you can create it.  It would also make it easy to refer to the wiki to help you translate to and from Autlang.

Now that I'm learning japanese, I have a better idea of how vastly different grammar systems work and also an understanding of phonetic alphabets.  I think I could come up with some better ideas for Autlang than what we've currently got.

I wonder why everyone is learning Japanese, it has probably something to do with Manga and Anime...

Well the structure that I was imagining would look like
                               main wiki  
                         /                     \
stuff that's under development        stuff that's more finalized
                                                 /                              \
                                             grammer                    vocabulary

It seems utterly pointless to me. There is nothing in the new linguistic structure that makes language easier to use for us. If it were to succeed, it would simply separate us even more from society.

Unfortunately, this is most likely the case. Perhaps the best we could hope for is a few "in words" rather than a whole new language.

The biggest problem, in my opinion.

That seems a bit over-complicated. For instance, if taxonomists came to the conclusion that platypuses weren't mammals after all, the word for "platypus would become obsolete.

Erkolos:  I'm learning Japanese because up until now, my school has not taught any languages at all, and when they decided to offer their first-ever "Critical Languages" course, it was Japanese.  So it was either take that, or have to go to the normal Highschool for my language credit.  Besides which, Japanese is a very interesting language, and the culture is also fascinating (and by culture I DO mean more than just "Manga and anime" as you put it), and I really enjoy my class a lot.

Well, yeah, but what I meant was, for example, ginving words the appearance of having evolved from the smae root word.  If you look at English, you can see the related-ness of words all over the place.  That's what I meant.

It seems like those of us who think making up a language would be fun could do so, and anyone who sees a possible use for it could use it.

All right then; I suggest that we start this as a project on a wiki, possibly through Wikiversity (http://en.wikiversity.org), which encourages "learning through doing" projects.  Of course, if we do that, we have to accept that any Wikiversitan could edit it.
Thoughts?

I thought autlang was confusing as hell. I can learn french 100x faster than autlang (noting that i suck at learning french)