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Ugh... I seem to have picked up a problem, though it involves the whole family more than me.

Anyway; at least 3 months ago we were all going out to the local pub - rare since I rarely do anything sociable with the family. The road connecting the pub is a thin single lane dirt track with passing points and a blind hump in the middle.

We were driving up this single lane road when another car (Spanish driver) comes over the blind bump at like 40 or 50mph, realises his error, and ends up plowing into us. Thankfully nobody was hurt, and he immediatly told everyone he took full responsibility and we exchanged insurance details and it all seemed happy families. The next day though we got a phone call from Insurance saying that the details of the other vehicle were false, and furthermore someone had filed against us saying our driver had been drunk, and he was using our signed details from the original exchange to back up that.

Anyway, we got a call from him to "exchange details properly", which we attended... his "proper details" being "I'll kill you all if you notify the police", of course wern't very impressed with that but stood our ground insurancewise but didn't notify the police because frnkly the guy seems psychopathic and the British have an inherent lack of faith in Spanish police since usually when they get called out they say "eh no evidence" then find some infraction to fine YOU on, like you wern't wearing a bright yellow jacket while driving or somesuch, or couldn't answer the polciemans question because you don't speak fluent spanish. THankfully when we notified the insurance of the situation they phoned him and he told the guy on the PHONE "I'll kill you if you don't give me the money" and they ruled automaticlly in our favour.

A few weeks later the parents encountered him again, he chased them on the motorway for some time before cornering them and blockading them with his car, after which he began punching the bonnet with his bare hands and winning while screaming maniclly, they managed to drive away, but since the only witnesses were already biased against him, they can't do anything.

Last month, dad encountered him again, whereas he again tried ramming him off the road, cornered the car and began attacking it with his bare hands while screaming, and again dad escaped, but again nobody cares because there's never any other witnesses and he drives away moment the police get mentioned.

Finally, today one of our neighbours comes to our house:
Neighbour: "Hey Bob! - The guy with your timber is here"
Me: "There isn't a bob at our house and we didn't order timber"
Neighbour: "Bob... Roberts, your dad"
Me: "There ISN'T a bob here, and that man isn't selling timber"
*Neighbour walks right past me and leads the stranger in with him*
Neighbour: "There you are bob"
Stranger: "I'm gonna come back here AND **** KILL YOU ALL!" (In Spanish)
*Stranger jumps in his car; still battered from the crash and drives off*


Gee nice going... you led him right to our house. Unfortunatly I'm the only person there who understood waht he said and since I was part of the crash I'm an invalid witness because I'm biased.

This guy is gonna come back I won't doubt and cause some serious criminal damage sooner or later, and nobody seems to care. I mean we've notified the police again and see if they do anything THIS time... but still. The thing that bugs me the most, is in my lfietime I've been threatened with knives, bottles, attacked by random strangers, bullied to nervous breakdown and now I have a psychopath who punches sheet metal and wins stalking me, I'm only 23 and never leave the house anymore because of how horrible people are.


Humanity are animals arn't they? - I mean, really... they kill maim and mutilate for fun and personal gain. At least, the ones I've met do. (One woman once beat up my sister and tried to attack me and my niece when I was 13 - though I grabbed her out the way and locked us in a room, she shortly after stabbed her boyfriend to death and is still in jail today)

quickduck

You’ve had some terrible experiences--the sort of stuff most people only every encounter once in a lifetime.

There are nasty, horrible people out there…but there are also many good, kind and compassionate people.

Don’t loose faith in humanity.

If you live your life in fear the psychos have won.

quickduck

Lucie1 Wrote:

Ryuujin Wrote:
Ugh... I seem to have picked up a problem, though it involves the whole family more than me.


This must be so frightening and distressing for you, just awful.Sad
You must feel quite sick about it all.
Is there any way you can move away to a different area, so that you can live with a bit of peace?


Yes this situation is certainly distressing.Sad

Sorry to disagree Lucie...but I don't think moving away to a different area is the answer. One way or another this psycho needs to be sorted out...

Ryuujin--you can't let some demented weirdo drive you away from your home.Sad

Reminds me of this guy that would bother me in tenth grade. People watched, and did nothing - Letting him fool himself as much as he wanted. Luckily it wasn't to the extent that I would call bullying. Just some few very nasty incidents.

quickduck

Lucie1 Wrote:

quickduck Wrote:

Lucie1 Wrote:

Ryuujin Wrote:
Ugh... I seem to have picked up a problem, though it involves the whole family more than me.


This must be so frightening and distressing for you, just awful.Sad
You must feel quite sick about it all.
Is there any way you can move away to a different area, so that you can live with a bit of peace?


Yes this situation is certainly distressing.Sad

Sorry to disagree Lucie...but I don't think moving away to a different area is the answer. One way or another this psycho needs to be sorted out...

Ryuujin--you can't let some demented weirdo drive you away from your home.Sad


I agree he shouldn't have to move - but for myself I would choose peace of mind and safety over justice - especially if the police aren't much help. My feelings only.

You do have a point Lucie…
Personal safety and peace of mind are paramount--and far more important than personal processions. I just don’t like the idea of anyone being bullied out their home by some deranged half wit.

It would most likely be a dangerous course of action but my first instinct is to stand up to this bloke--put the frighteners on him and see how he likes it.

quickduck

Opps bad spelling…Personal safety and peace of mind far more important than personal possessions

You can’t really have a person procession …a procession requires several people, floats, elephants and a few clowns. Smile

quickduck

Ian Wrote:
"I 'ope you told 'im to *** off, love."

Direct and to the point...but not always as easy to pull off in practice.

quickduck

Emmy Wrote:
I would recomand a camera outside and inside your house

CCTV would be a good idea. Then if he tried anything (criminal damage etc) you'd have evidence to give to the police.

Heh, I can't get my desktop webcam to work right let alone rig up a motion sensitive one to record only when triggered =p

Well, we've handed him a denouncia today, well, the police anyway, I've yet to see their full response since it's gotta go through a translator. So I expect he'll either leave us alone (unlikely) or in the next week we'll see him come along and try do some serious damage (Thankfully Spanish houses are all brick, tiles and cement and so arson doesn't tend to work)

I did have an intresting thought; he keeps threatening us with violence if we don't give him money - if we were to agree he'd have to take us down the bank to make sure we did take it out, the bank has CCTV and a door lock so if we went down there with him, slammed the door and made a scene, he'd without doubt get angry (on camera), and probably cause enough of a disturbance to make the attendant sound the silent alarm.
...on the way back from the police station he and another guy (tall burly type) tried run the car off the road AGAIN where there were no witnesses, tried blockade them (for the 3rd time), when they failed he tried smash the windscreen as they drove past and the burly guy actually tried chase the car ON FOOT (wtf).

The police have been notified but they said "meh, call this number and give us this case ID if they do it again", so the police won't act unless they strike again and each attack has been more violent than the last so I don't care to consider whether the police will act until someone is seriously hurt or killed. i mean think about it; he's threatened to kill us, and keeps trying to catch us when we're by ourselves and can't escape (It's motly desert mountain here)

We were able to get his ID from the police when they looked him up from his car records; the car and name he gave at the crash were his dads as we thought, and it seems he's the same age as me. WHich lends further credance to my theory that all my peers are monsters, I was bullied inssecantly in school by my own age group, the few my own age group I've met in Spain on the rare occasion I dare leave the house have threatened aor attacked me randomly and now I have a guy my age comign to my own home threatening to kill me.

quickduck Wrote:
You do have a point Lucie…
Personal safety and peace of mind are paramount--and far more important than personal processions. I just don’t like the idea of anyone being bullied out their home by some deranged half wit.

Another way to look at it is that if you stay you give at least the police what they want, if however the police or Spanish governmentals notice that people leave because they feel unsafe they would have to improve security for foreign people.

Well, this mornign the Civil Guard came around and told us to be at the station for 12 so I thought things were finlly getting moving.


...when we got there we were cautioned that a certain Diego (Yeah the same one who's been giving us threats) had filed a report that our dog had bitten him when he came over our house to "sort out insurance details", so now we have a court case against *us*


Of course the entire thing will fall apart when they discover we don't *own* a dog, but this is gettign rediculous, the police seem to be on his side because we're the "immigrants"
Damn those are bad people!

(yeah, I repeat myself)
I honestly don't know how you could survive this. The idea is the most horrifying thing I could think of. I wish it was just as easy as saying, this guy has threatened me and my family lock them up. However, usually people who do this sick behaviour also happen to be very manipulative, so as not to be caught.
Why is this person threatening you and demanding money when his family is so rich, they bail him out?  Are they not concerned so much about their family image that they would not try to stop this person?  If only you could find someone influential to apply pressure.  Maybe the embassy can help in introducing your family to someone who can help even if they can not use diplomatic channels.
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