11-11-2007, 02:26 AM
11-11-2007, 11:43 AM
I think Yetti might have seen a different school than young aspies see today.
Today's school (at least here in Norway) has begun with focus on groupwork and projects with a wide array of possibilities, which I never really manage and it really drains my self-esteem each time. I wish school was more straight-forward as it probably was when Yetti went to school.
I don't know how it is to go to school with other autistics, but I can imagine that it could be a more safe environment to learn social skills for many - without having to get overly negative reactions whenever you try to participate in a conversation.
Today's school (at least here in Norway) has begun with focus on groupwork and projects with a wide array of possibilities, which I never really manage and it really drains my self-esteem each time. I wish school was more straight-forward as it probably was when Yetti went to school.
I don't know how it is to go to school with other autistics, but I can imagine that it could be a more safe environment to learn social skills for many - without having to get overly negative reactions whenever you try to participate in a conversation.
11-11-2007, 03:24 PM
Sequoyah Wrote:
Depends on the aspie, depends on the school.
I had a great experience in mainstream, but it was a small school with a student culture which I think is extremely respectful compared with most schools, and I think I'm a lot less obviously different than a lot of aspies.
I had a great experience in mainstream, but it was a small school with a student culture which I think is extremely respectful compared with most schools, and I think I'm a lot less obviously different than a lot of aspies.
I definitely prefer the culture I find in my current class when I compare it to my previous class - Well-meaning humour has replaced nasty comments.
11-12-2007, 10:30 AM
*bump*
11-16-2007, 04:11 PM
We would ofcourse put private schools based on the overhaul ideas to the test first.
But by all means, be creative and ambitious.
But by all means, be creative and ambitious.
11-18-2007, 07:43 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysergic_acid_amide
When I look at the effects I just am not exactly what good it is supposed to do.
When I look at the effects I just am not exactly what good it is supposed to do.
11-27-2007, 04:42 PM
I don't believe in the formal education system, so my views on this probably don't even make sense in the framework of the question.
01-06-2008, 05:14 PM
Planet*Louise Wrote:
I think it might be a good idea to have either special classes in mainstream secondary schools or separate secondary schools altogether for these kids. If they were all in together they would be better understood by both teachers and hopefully peers, and I find that kids who don't fit in become more confident socially when with people who have the same problems. As a result they may be able to have friends and go on dates like other people their age. This will raise their personal confidence.
Are there enough Aspies in your average school to make a separate class worthwhile? The usual quoted statistic is 1 in 100, so one would expect there to be 10 Aspies in a school of 1000 pupils, and spread across all the school years. How does a GCSE pupil benefit from attending a class with prepubescent Year-7s?
01-06-2008, 07:25 PM
Ian Wrote:
I'm in the UK,
I feel that Mainstream, although hard for me at times, is what tempered me into the firey, witty, strong individual I am today.
This is of course, just my opinion.
I feel that Mainstream, although hard for me at times, is what tempered me into the firey, witty, strong individual I am today.
This is of course, just my opinion.
I agree absolutely. No question whatsoever in my mind.
01-07-2008, 11:13 AM
I remember that someone at the chat who went to a special school for autistics said she was beaten up when she was 16 by students she didn't know. So I guess its valid that a "segregated" class could face serious discrimination.
I still believe that there should be a better alternative for many who endure mainstream today. I really don't think it is that good to be in an environment where you don't manage to get friends and get bullied, and I really don't think that's a great way of learning social skills either.
I still believe that there should be a better alternative for many who endure mainstream today. I really don't think it is that good to be in an environment where you don't manage to get friends and get bullied, and I really don't think that's a great way of learning social skills either.
01-07-2008, 12:20 PM
Mainstreaming would be fine, if they didn't allow the bullies to prey on those mainstreamed, like a pack of rabid dogs.
01-28-2008, 02:16 PM
alexmagnus Wrote:
Bad manners and lack of social skills are two completely different things. It is possible to be extremely social and rude. It is also possible to be well-mannered and have no social skills....
Think both can be teached by the same time.
01-29-2008, 07:56 PM
Janet Wrote:
I have been mainstream my whole life, and it aint easy.
Me too, so I've no idea whatsoever how the alternatives would be.
01-29-2008, 07:59 PM
erkolos Wrote:
Janet Wrote:
I have been mainstream my whole life, and it aint easy.
Me too, so I've no idea whatsoever how the alternatives would be.
Mainstream schools are however almost the only option in Norway, and not something that's ever being considered poor as far as I know.
02-02-2008, 02:39 PM
I also think that in the USA at least that if teachers were properly paid and not forced onto contracts, they would attract more high quality teachers. Teachers are probably not so well paid in other countries but at least they usually have security of tenure.