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kingofdarkness

i got a autism score of 108 of 200 neurotopical score of 92 of 200
i am a hybrid of autism and neurotopical

Saint Wrote:
1) However, it is once again full of questions involving your desired level of sociability which should skew the results away from us selecting Aspie characteristics since many of us desire to be sociable.
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I agree. I don't think Aspie quiz has any question on desired sociability.

[quote=Saint]
2) This test lays out the criteria for us to select ourselves as Aspies. The social/ occupational test was a little less direct about the questions so that the test taker could not presuppose the desired intent of the test questions.


I don't see how this could be true. Even if some frequent autism-community participants might have come across some of the research-type questions in Aspie-quiz that have made it to the stable version, few would have come across all of them. Many of the questions in fact are novel when viewed from a standpoint of DSM-criteria for AS.

About the hunting group in the graphical presentation. I don't want to be too obvious about what this exactly is. The neurotypical hunting group is closely related to team-sports that are "play hunting" for NTs. The Aspie hunting group is closely related to Valerius Geist hunting theory of Neanderthals. One can see the questions that are involved in this dimension in the PDF. It is things like jumping over things, fascination for making traps, fascination for water and mimicking animal sounds.

In the last few versions all 12 (previously 8) dimensions of the graphical presentation are based on axises from centered factor analysis of previous versions. It is not direct axises because those differ between versions, rather weighted axises with different weights for different versions. Weights are calculated from correlations between each axis and dimension in each quiz. The Aspie and NT scores are directly related to first and second axis from non-centered factor analysis. This method of scoring is now well-established and have been used for more than a year now. This is what guarantees stable scores.

As for score stability over time, there are several reports on this now.
Between versions: http://www.rdos.net/eng/aspeval/vervar.htm

Within version:
http://www.rdos.net/eng/aspeval/retests2.htm
http://www.rdos.net/eng/aspeval/retests3.htm
http://www.rdos.net/eng/aspeval/retests4.htm

The entire evaluation is here:
http://www.rdos.net/eng/aspeval/

barefoot doc Wrote:
oh dear. oh deary me. i had no idea that this kind of (over)theorising was beneath the spider diagram's multi-axis analysis. i assumed it was something to do with AS, not some megatheory of evolution!?


It is only the hunting axis that has this (almost AS-unrelated) theme. Most of the other axises are quite useful. Aspie obsession is closely related to OCD. NT obsession is obsessiveness about style, image and status. Social is pretty straight-forward. NT social is closely related to social phobia and a desire to socialize with strangers. Aspie-communication is stimming and unusual nonverbal communication. NT communication is the typical nonverbal communication of NTs that many have a hard time to understand. Talents should be obvious. Aspie-perception is acute hearing, smell, taste and so on. NT perception is talents for judging distance, speed and time.

Besides, in a not to distant future, Aspie-score will be renamed to neurodiversity score, and there will be suggestions for various neurodiversity diagnosises. This is just in line with the direction that the quiz is taking. The current Aspie score is still very relevant for AS, but it is also relevant for many other, related neurodiversity-diagnosises. Therefore it makes sense to point out which of these are most relevant to persue.
Your Aspie score: 104 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 88 of 200
You seem to have both Aspie and neurotypical traits

Batman55 Wrote:

rdos Wrote:
NT social is closely related to social phobia and a desire to socialize with strangers.


Eh, well, there's also plenty of Aspies who have a social phobia...


My fault. NT social is <b>inversely</b> related to social phobia. IOW, if you have low score for NT social you are likely to have social phobia.

Natalie Wrote:
I have an extremely low NT social score and I don't have a social phobia. I just find highly social situations extremely frustrating/uncomfortable, but it doesn't make me anxious (I have another phobia that does that).


IMHO, this is exactly what Social Phobia is all about. The most relevant question for Social Phobia in Aspie-quiz ever is "Do you dislike socializing with strangers?". I also had the LSAS test (a Social Phobia test) in Aspie-quiz, and all the questions correlate best with the Aspie / NT social groups.

I seem to be the highest NT-wise by far...
I seem to learn best from observation. Although it should be noted that most of my social fumbles were/are the result of uncontrollable impulses, rather than from a lack of the understanding of human emotion/sociability and whatnot.
I could tell you much about the aspie quiz, and the people who run it...they are not autistic!

gwynfryn Wrote:
I could tell you much about the aspie quiz, and the people who run it...they are not autistic!


Now you got me interested. The "people who run it" currently is only me. Inger no longer is involved in the project. So, IOW, I'm not autistic. Interesting. At least I have a daugther that has the label autism (not AS). Given heritability and all that, chances are pretty high I have it too, especially since her mom doesn't have the label either and I score 150 on Aspie-quiz and her mom usually scores lower than me.

Tigger_the_Wing Wrote:

woman from mars Wrote:
I agree, but I would be interested to see all of them superimposed, in order to see ( rather than read ) the common characteristics as many of these are from the undiagnosed. Smile


Your wish is my command! Wink


Interesting. Here are the averages for AFF (using slightly different groupings):

woman from mars Wrote:
Hello rdos,
What does the 'activity part refer to, active on AFF? in taking the test?
I'm just curious as it's only on the AS side.Smile


It bothers me too that it is only on the AS side while social is only on the NT-side. The background to this is that neither social nor activity can naturally be split-up into an Aspie and NT component. At least not with the current questions. It seems like either you socialize in the Aspie way or in the NT way.

Anyway, activity is short for activity level or activity pattern. It is best approximated with ADD/ADHD, but also contains some aspects that are often more thought to be autistic, like having trouble getting started and things that are usually thought to be part of Bipolar.

If anybody can find a better, short word than "activity" I'd be grateful.

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