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Yea... something smells like fish...

Every move we've ever made has taken me at least two years to start to feel comfortable in my own environment... guess I should be happy I had supportive parents...

I just converted her weight to pounds (because I have know idea what a kilogram is) that's only 20 pounds! You don't just up and starve to death all of a sudden... what a sad, slow, and painful process. I can't imagine how anyone could sit back and let that happen.

sarahjoke Wrote:
Yea... something smells like fish...

Every move we've ever made has taken me at least two years to start to feel comfortable in my own environment... guess I should be happy I had supportive parents...

I just converted her weight to pounds (because I have know idea what a kilogram is) that's only 20 pounds! You don't just up and starve to death all of a sudden... what a sad, slow, and painful process. I can't imagine how anyone could sit back and let that happen.

She could be a failure to thrive case.not starved at all.the perents could be right, but using the wrong words.

we dont know the whole story.

Lucie1 Wrote:
Average weight for a 7 year old is 53 pounds, they would have watched as she starved to death.


miss luce, i was only 14 pound more than this girl at that age and here i am. averages are average. yes she was under wiegh but by its self not life threatingly so.with doctor care that could have been manage the same way they upped my wieght, vitamns and potien and cal shakes along with 3 meals a day.

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He said police had told him they believed his daughter died from starvation and dehydration


this whole story is a very very sad thing to read.

It is one thing to be underweight. She was apparantly malnourished-and said to have "no fluids left in her body" ??!

What is so heartbreaking in these stories about children like this little girl is that there does seem to be some knowledge on the part of the "authorities" -some kind of report filed away-but then nothing is actually done about it until it is too late to help...

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Mr Ward said DOCS had visited the family's former home in Sydney around July this year and allegedly reported neglect...

guardian001 Wrote:
miss luce, i was only 14 pound more than this girl at that age and here i am. averages are average. yes she was under wiegh but by its self not life threatingly so.with doctor care that could have been manage the same way they upped my wieght, vitamns and potien and cal shakes along with 3 meals a day.

This is very true.

Mahler5 Wrote:
What is so heartbreaking in these stories about children like this little girl is that there does seem to be some knowledge on the part of the "authorities" -some kind of report filed away-but then nothing is actually done about it until it is too late to help...

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Mr Ward said DOCS had visited the family's former home in Sydney around July this year and allegedly reported neglect...

This happens all to often in so called civilised society.

Alison Wrote:
I don't know of any condition or disease that leads to extreme and rapid dehydration (apart from gastroenteritis, which has vomiting and diarrhoea as the dehydrating symptoms,

I had a severe bout of vomiting  a year ago which caused a wight loss of 8lb in 6 hours so it is possible, but as you say this was not the case here.

We don't know the full story but I am always suspicious of parents who are in contact with the media under circumstances like these.

If one of my children was to die suddenly, the last thing I would be doing is speaking to the press or on TV.

Lucie1 Wrote:
Average weight for a 7 year old is 53 pounds, they would have watched as she starved to death.

Yes, at the same age, I weighed 42 pounds and was considered quite skinny. This little girl would have been a walking skeleton and I don't believe that the parents would not have noticed this unless they were either very unintelligent or bombed out most of the time.

I'm also very suspicious when someone says "help me find out why so and so died". It's as if they don't want to admit they had something to do with it.

Alison Wrote:
 I'm sorry if I sound harsh, but this is one news report that really makes me very angry, as I deal with children every day in work and I know how vulnerable they are.
Alison


'He said police had told him they believed his daughter died from starvation and dehydration, a claim he said was impossible.

"Starvation, we didn't starve her. She was born small, she was a tiny kid," Mr Ward said.'

i was simply offering other reasons for her small size other than starvation. we dont know the whole story. we dont know what kind of backround she had medicily other than Autism.as for noticing something was up yah some one should have.

Poor little girl!

This is just appalling and even more so in light of the fact that children's services remove other children from loving families on the say so of people who have a grudge against them.

This case should have been given proper priority instead of being continually duck-shoved.

I wonder if the police were ever called too.
Off-topic, but I noticed that quite a number of people said they used to be underweight as kids. Is that more common among autistic kids? I know that I was underweight until I was 5yo or so; my mom had to sew or knit all my clothes herself because none of the clothes in the stores would fit me. Then all throughout primary school I only drank juice or whole chocolate milk (no water whatsoever) and I slowly gained weight so that by the beginning of highschool I was slightly overweight, but that took years. My husband was also extremely skinny but for him it lasted until he was in his early twenties.
Btw, I also ate food (in normal amounts) to be clear, but when it came to drinking I only drank really high-calorie drinks.
I don't know about myself.

My daughter...birthweight 7˝lb & my older son birthweight 8 lb, became underweight babies / toddlers.
There was some concern about my daughter, as she was more interested in sleeping than feeding.... I just fed her 2 hourly until her weight became acceptable.

Both as toddlers not seriously so, but below the average weight curve.

My son continues to be skinny for his height.

My younger son  birth weight 7˝lb..never had an underweight problem, quite the opposite.
I feel sorry for their other kids too as they were said to be very underweight.

Alison Wrote:
In the latest news on this case, I heard this evening that the police are now searching for the parents of the little girl, to charge them not with manslaughter due to neglect, but with murder.  Unfortunately the couple have gone on the run, and can't be found.  
Alison

Sadly, this whole scenario is relatively common in the UK.

The Social Services have been known to leave  acknowledged ' at risk children ' with drug addicts, alcohol abusers, people who have a threatening demeanor etc. ( The usual excuse for the latter...they wouldn't let us in / we were frightened, they know perfectly well that they can take a police escort, but choose not to do so )

Whilst being very keen to remove children from caring homes on the basis of rumour  ( the Orkney case ) or on the say so of a  Doctor who has some extremely strange ideas ( the Cleveland case ).

There is an extreme shortage of babies available for adoption in the UK & it seems rather convenient that the SS will take Court action to remove an unborn baby from an AS  person for no reason at all ( Wales ), yet will leave 'at risk children ' with the abusers.

Could it be that putative adoptive parents don't want a child that may be an addict, carry a disease or have a terrible background? .....  * Sarcasm *

9 **** kilos?

That's about the expected weight of a one-year-old. I have no idea why people would even try to defend something like that, there is no way in hell they wouldn't have noticed, so this is clearly a sad case of extreme neglect. If they've been charged with murder, I agree.
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