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I find that there seems to be a clustering of logic, rationality and what I call "logical communitarianism", where aspies can be convinced of something by logic and accept it without their ego's getting in the way. (unless it's something they are personally emotionally invested in).

It seems discussion on many aspie forums is pretty easy among genuine aspies, as 'hyper rationality' seems to cluster there.

I noted this because in another forum, discussing political idealogies and socio-economic systems, the members could not be convinced by rational argument, it was like they were talking and conscious, but they were being controlled by their feral unconscious mind and instincts, and what they said were just backwards rationalizations for their lack of action.

On a socialist forum I suggested that they get together in second life and test out their economic theories in the virtual world and establish virtual communities and economies and I was greeted with excuses... it's similar to religion -- everyone wants eternal life, but no one really wants the moral constraints.... and therefore act hypocritical.

What do you guys things?
Well, since Socialism doesn't work..

AHEM

I'm not sure I mean, I'm capable of lieing quite easily, I even find it to be beneficial in some circumstances, but then again i'm not a proper Aspie ;p

Ian Wrote:
.......... but then again i'm not a proper Aspie ;p


True, you are frequently a most improper Aspie!Cool

You know exactly what I mean Tongue AS has a stigma, a stigma I don't want to be associated with.

Ian Wrote:
You know exactly what I mean Tongue AS has a stigma, a stigma I don't want to be associated with.


And that is why this is AFF - Amy and Gareth are helping us to fight the stigma.

I met a guy today who was wearing a badge - 'Honorary Aspie'.

Big GrinBig GrinBig Grin

The more of us who 'come out', the less the stigma will be. Just as the stigma is diminishing for other 'different' folk as they become more vocal for their own freedoms, the stigma will be reduced for us.

And I think that it will be because of SoulSick's ideas - that we will be perceived as the honest branch of humanity.

I'm not honest Tongue I'm a nasty Capitalist who lives off the land =p

Well, not entirely true, I genuinely believe that the free market will be the savior of humanity and all it's facets.

"we power your homes, we educate your children, we protect your families.." Tongue

Ian Wrote:
I'm not honest Tongue I'm a nasty Capitalist who lives off the land =p

Well, not entirely true, I genuinely believe that the free market will be the savior of humanity and all it's facets.

"we power your homes, we educate your children, we protect your families.." Tongue


"for a price"

IMO, it will be the downfall of humanity. It is already widening the gap between rich and poor, whether individuals or states, faster and wider than ever before. There are so many drawbacks that just attempting to think of them all has made me too tired to type them.

Night night!

Autistics are all different.

"If you've met one autistic, you've met one autistic"

Know the person, not "autism".
I'm not very logical or rational, to be honest.  Does that mean I'm not a genuine Aspie?
I don't think that could mean anything in itself, but because you're honest you might be aspie - LOL
Saint, your hypothesis is only true if your premise (I.E that truth comes from the heart) also holds true, as we know, emotions are produced by and in the brain.
Logically and rationally speaking, 'n all.
Well yeah, I mean the average joe on the street (that is, if he knows what Autism/AS is even..) probably thinks "yurr dustin hoffman in rainman" if you say "autism" to him.

Ok, I admit..some people with Autism probably do act like that..but for gods sake don't paint us all with the same damn brush Tongue Who the hell gave that film the go ahead anyway?

Ian

AgentPalpatine Wrote:
Ian, you know you are one of us, but I think you are someone that makes the world understand that aspies are real people.  For reasons that we've discussed before, I agree that Capitalism, despite it's flaws, is the least worst method to allocate limited resources.  It also happens to be the best hope for aspies.

Saint Wrote:

Batman55 Wrote:
I'm not very logical or rational, to be honest.  Does that mean I'm not a genuine Aspie?


The thread title was: "Are aspies more trustworthy and rational?"

There is a saying that "truth comes from the heart", and therefore, if aspies are as honest as is stated in the literature on such matters, then we couldn't be logical all of the time.

If to be logical, rational, and honest is to be 'aspie' then your honest self-assessment and your outward honesty would seem to indicate that you have one of the parameters licked.


Perhaps then, if I wasn't trying to be "honest" and speak my mind all the time, I would be more logical...

I constantly have to fight against my nature, with this, its just annoying to want to be truthful at all times, but sometimes its nescessary, that, and the feds are constantly on my back, so I have over the years, become fairly practised at telling a decent porky, when the situation demands.
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