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Hey, I've got that song on a compilation CD I bought a couple of years ago at Crazy Clarks. It had all sorts of songs that were considered very "alternative" such as that one and "Two-Headed Dog" by Roky Erickson (read somewhere that he used to be lead singer of 70's group Bloodrock who gained some notoriety at the time for their very morbid song "D.O.A").

Although I couldn't make out all the lyrics of "Spasticus Autisticus", I certainly got the distinct impression it was meant to be a parody rather than an offensive song about disability.

Devo had a song in a somewhat similar vein "Mongoloid", but I don't think it was as satirical as "Spasticus".
Ian, I'm sure I never said you were immoral and I don't know who did but somebody should give them a cyber shake.
Batman, intelligence isn't just about using large words and complex language. It's obvious from your posts that you're very bright and often it takes more intelligence to cut through all the fancy language to get to the point. So please don't think you don't belong here.

Regarding the Atomic ideology, I think a majority of my personal beliefs, likes and dislikes are based on "becauses". Whether this is a "good" or "bad" thing, I don't know. It makes it hard to answer if somebody asks why I think the way I do because they don't tend to accept "because I just do".
Don't ever chew mentos and then drink diet coke-- it causes projectile vomiting.  Some sarcastic person pretending to be my friend suggested it to me.  That is why I don't want to try and have friends anymore.  Too much risk.
Good luck rossco - I hope justice finally prevails.
Infected Mushroom also had a song called "Cities of the Future" but unfortunately, I don't have the lyrics.
I wonder how we could establish an anti-quack culture.

I wonder what it is that makes people bark whenever others say something that conflicts with equalism...

Tigger_the_Wing Wrote:

erkolos Wrote:
I wonder how we could establish an anti-quack culture.

I wonder what it is that makes people bark whenever others say something that conflicts with equalism...


(My emphasis)

I like the word! Add it to the lexicon on AFF cultural words Big Grin

In Norway we have a single word for equality of sexes, I found equalism at wikipedia that seemed to fit the description.

Be carefull with saying that most autism-related money go to genetic research EZ, I'm not so sure, but I agree that Autism Speaks and CAN money could have better uses.
I'm not so sure calling autism an inseperable part of one's personality cause epiphanies - I might be wrong o'course, but I kind of like it better if saying that they have to accept autism because their children will most likely have to live as autistic for the rest of their lives, and they shouldn't spend their lives working against autism, but with it.

EvilZakkie Wrote:

Zarathustra Wrote:
I am applying your methodology to my newly instigated daily posts to JohnBeastJr's "hatingautism" blog. If anyone is capable of maintaining their cool in the face of grossly offensive provocation, please join me. "For the triumph of evil, all that is necessary is for good aspies to do nothing". Ignoring bullies doesn't stop bullying. [That's NT evil, not Zakkie evil ]


Much as I'm not a fan of his work, I tend to think ignoring him is the best policy. Think of him like a shock talkback radio host - the only reason people have heard of him at all is the number of pissed off people complaining about him. If he's starved of this kind of attention, he'll cease to exist...

That's how I heard of him Wink

But then the question is how do we target larger groups?

It is easy to get some kind of idea of what autism is if you know a parent with a severely disabled autistic child, because then autism is right infront of your face and you have to respect people involved, if you didn't have an idea of what autism was before you'd simply have to model your idea of autism from that single experience.

But it isn't that easy to form your idea of autism if you meet high-functional autistics without knowing their diagnosis.

So one way that is actually mentioned in some stickified thread on this forum is to come out as autistic to people around you. That way people may get an even broader idea of what autism is.

Personally I haven't done this in any big scale out various reasons. Presenting good ways to come out in might encourage people to do so.

Targetting autistic people to motivate themselves in affecting the media is also a topic. Apparently I have noticed alot of negativity here in Norway towards letting children and young adults on autism forums. Apparently because there's a "risk" that they will get obsessed about autism and "define themselves out of autism".

Personally I don't understand that point of view. But maybe we actually have to target such scare-mongery, maybe by modifying how the web communities works and are presented so that it seems unlikely. Maybe by making autism communities seem more like a place to find online friends that understands you sometimes more than offline people. And maybe also a place to learn stuff that autistics are famed to be good at like programming, personally I've only seen me using AFF with that purpose so I'm not sure whether there's much of a demand for it.
I like this thread as a "box of thoughts". I remember Logical Paradox and I have made new threads in Aspergian Ideas whenever we felt like we had an idea. It was however abit depressing when we never, if ever, got much replies.

EvilZakkie Wrote:

woman from mars Wrote:
I know that we as a group haven't been involved in this, but surely Heather.. & the like are good examples of showing the public AS in a good & positive light.
There must be thousands of good examples out there who could perhaps be persuaded to give positive publicity for Autism.


Absolutely, and I'd love to get in contact with Heather about this. She's already said that she'd be interested in being a spokesperson for aspergers, so it wouldn't be too great a leap to ask her to advocate autistic rights...

Aside from Heather, it's pretty difficult to find spectrumites doing impressive things - there's either articles about people doing things "despite their disability", or impressive people that wouldn't be game to mention aspergers or autism.

The only solution I can think of is for us to push ourselves to achieve impressive things, and go from there...

What about those of us whose "impressive achievements" are simply doing what others take for granted? We're not all high functioning enough socially to be able to get into the limelight.

I think a good message is that we autistic people use what we have of or neurological capabilities. Instead of giving messages of us fighting a word like "autism".
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