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I dont  have learning dissabilities but bad non-verbal resoning ability,problems with complex visual information,with consentration and geometrick shapes, but my inteligence its still in the normal scale(91).My problem is said to be placed in the brain-stem.
It is a great thread indeed!!
I had a friend as i was a kid who said that her dyslexia made the letter b look like db i think,or was it just d.
Can you relate to that?
Someone in my family have got dyslexia as well.

Batman55 Wrote:
Why would anyone want to call themselves mildly *** or cognitively disabled?

There seems to be no point in doing so except to make yourself feel worse, and ruin your self-esteem for life.


Aliengirl started this thread to find other people like herself. She doesn't mind calling herself "not-so-high-functioning" because she knows that having to set alarms and other such things doesn't mean that she's less of a person.

These words are tools for understanding and self-improvement, not for "ruining self-esteem".

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Batman,To have less IQ-points does not meen you are less valueble as a person.
It can often make a person more interesting,different and colorfull in a way.
Intelligence has destroid the world in so many earias...
think of the atomic bomb...stupid is what stupid does,my oppinion.
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Once upon a time I had to be the best at everything .... or I wouldn't do it at all.  It was "be the best" or nothing at all.  I missed out on a lot.  Nobody is the best at everything, and everyone has gifts.  I suppose I was in my 20s somewhere when it suddenly occurred to me that I simply had to be MY best, and life became much more fun and interesting.

It is also important to remember that there will always be somebody who will criticize what you are doing, no matter how well you do it.  Sometimes this is malice and sometimes it isn't.  The measure of an activity's worth is not what others say, but how you feel when you do it. And when/if some one says something about it, simply reply, "Yeah, but it feels good and makes me happy."  and smile ....
I know two women who have had elective hysterectomies.  But I think that is the key word -- "elective."  They were able to choose.
Hi Aliengirl, nice idea for a thread. Whatever your diagnosis, you write very well. I am high functioning, but I suspect that my son may not be - he is 3.6, and has big problems understanding language. Can I ask whether you had speech delays at all?
Hi Aliengirl, just seen your reply from last week. I use a little bit of sign language with my little boy, but his speech therapist is a lot more enthusiastic about PECs, so I work more with him on that - he has a little communication book, so when he wants something, that helps him get the words out (seeing the pictures makes it easier for him to remember the word).

If my little boy grows up to write as well as you do, I would be delighted Smile.

I am sorry you ran into trouble on that other board.
You are strong who cope so well with ME!Cool
I also have astma-but not very serios.
I think the issue is that I breath fine in,but heavy/dificultly out,I think,but I cant remember.

woman from mars Wrote:


His handwriting is very much like that of a young child.
He has difficulties with wrist and arm co ordination & manipulation, so any skills which require wrist movement he finds difficult, eating nicely, tying shoe laces etc.

Maybe he has Disgraphia?  I'm not sure the spelling is right, but my bother has that.  It makes hand coordination difficult, and even speaking and reacting...

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Happy birthday, in case I forget tomorrow!

A True Monotheist Wrote:
1) Do I have the right to assume a label of "Autism" that others with a greater need might require?  Do I even have the right to an opinion on the whole question of a cure, one way or the other?  If I begin to claim this label, might it have an effect on their ability to claim certain services?


a) Autism's a huge pool, containing lots of different types of people - there's no shortage of the number of people that can be called autistic. This means that using the label has no effect on other people, so use the word if you want to.

The categories that would have an effect on other people are things like "needs housing accomodation", "requires disability pensions", "needs access to support services", etc - these are categories that people should think long and hard about before committing to, as there are limited resources of these things.

Autism, while occasionally related to these things, is not the same at all, as there are no requirements for autism itself. If anything, acknowledging that the reasons for some of your behaviors may occasionally be similar to the reasons for other autistic peoples behavior can only help to humanise others.

b) You have a right to an opinion on an autism cure no matter who you are - the same way that people that aren't from a minority race have a right to an opinion on racism. These issues are bigger than groups, they're about being human.

A True Monotheist Wrote:
3) Is my condition evident in my writings?  Is there some way someone can tell from listening to me?  How evident is it in my behavior?


Nope - at least, not in these posts. There's some things that may subtly indicate autistic behavior, but generally I don't think it's possible to diagnose someone over the internet. It might be evident in offline behavior, though...

A True Monotheist Wrote:
4) Are my peculiarities simply peculiar, or are they "stimming"?  


Yes - though I should point out that NT's can "stim" too, so it's not necessarily proof of autism. We just tend to do it more often.

A True Monotheist Wrote:
5) Would my Autistic charge be better served with an NT attendant?


Nope - I don't think neurotype makes a good teacher, it's the teaching that makes a good teacher. Given I don't know what sort of a teacher you are, all I can say is that you can't tell a good teacher by knowing which neurotype category they belong to.

A True Monotheist Wrote:
6)  I do not know a whole lot about "savantism."  Forgive my ignorance.  Yet, I had a childhood interest in Astronomy, Mathematics, Science, and other subjects that began at age six.  Is six young?  Again, this is not a boast.  It is a question.  My tendency is to believe that the label of "savantism" would not describe me.  However, I am not an expert on the matter.  Maybe my resistance to this concept has more to do with preconceived notions of what "savantism" means, stereotypical notions that are not real.  I cannot say.


Savantism is an amazing talent in one particular area only. I don't think there's any hard and fast definition of what qualifies as an "amazing talent", though.

I'd suggest that interest is not the same as ability, however. Did you have a naturally intuitive talent for numbers, or just an ability borne of being interested in the subject?

A True Monotheist Wrote:
7)  How does the diagnosis of "Asperger" change anything fundamental?  To be honest, I was diagnosed with Asperger and not Autism, by a doctor who seems to believe in a strong distinction between the two.  However, does either label change anything truly fundamental?  


The only difference is that you had no childhood delay in language or developmental stages as a child. The reason most of us consider it to be the same as autism is that we're adults now, so the abilities we had as children aren't very relevant now.

A True Monotheist Wrote:
8)  Is this whole movement in my life to uncover the truth about Autism genuine self-discovery?  Can it be used as a distraction?  An excuse?


Could be any of the above, really. If the label's helpful or useful, then use it, if it isn't, don't.

A True Monotheist Wrote:
9)  Is there a kind of covert NT movement against us?  Another forum participant has suggested some concepts along these lines that may seem outlandish.  However, I have often suspected that there is some unconscious, albeit perhaps not "telepathic," knowledge among NT's that I am somehow different, to be opposed or else to be laughed at.  Now, to be sure, I am not labeling all NT's as conspirators.  What I am suggesting is that we carry unconscious responses within us that can be activated by the right person.  We just "hate" some person, and we do not know why.  Have you ever wondered why you hate someone?  Perhaps there would be less hatred if people would simply ask why they hate.


Nope - there's an entirely non-covert NT movement against us, organised by such organisations as autism speaks. There is also a subconscious desire to pick on people that don't fit in, but this isn't the same as an organised movement.

For me, usually I can trace actual "hate" back to a definite thing - though it's very rare for me to hate someone. Usually the response is to "be annoyed by" or "not like spending time with" a person - and even these are usually for entirely traceable reasons.

For NT's, the thing you are referring to is that people give off body language signals that say "I am one of you", and autistic people have difficulty in replicating these signals. This is usually why autistic people are more likely to be subjected to bullying.

A True Monotheist Wrote:
10) Are there counselors out there who are not out to "fix" me?  It might be fun to fix a person as some kind of project.  However, I am a person, and a person is qualitatively different than a mechanism.


Yep, there's good ones out there...

Hope that's useful!

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