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aliengirl Wrote:
Hi,

I was just wondering if there were any other people like me here who are not especially high functioning and who have Learning Difficulties or Specific Learning Difficulties?

There seem to be sites for people with LD / SpLD and separete sites for people on the spectrum - but I haven't really found anything specifically for people with both!

So, I was thinking that maybe I would start my own thread.

I thought that perhaps initially anyone who wants to be part of this thread could start by saying a bit about themselves?

So here goes:

I am 27 and I live in UK.
I work part time in the arts. (Can't quite manage full-time at the moment for health reasons)

I have diagnosis of AS and also various SpLDs and mild retardation / learning difficulty issues

I also have some physical health problems, although I won't bore you with those.

I like music and reading and computers and the countryside and I am also interested in disability equality campaigning.

So that is a very short introduction to me!

I look forward to meeting others on this thread.

P.S. Please don't be mean. Thanks


Aliengirl, wht you've described sounds very similar to two friends of mine, Paul and Nancy (Nancy died three days ago, so I've been feeling pretty sad) Both have had long careers at one of the school districts I contract with. Nancy was an office clerk and paul has done many jobs, from constructing the sets of stage plays to running the printing and copying for the district.

I am glad to read "I am also interested in disability equality campaigning." I would love to see more people stepping up and doing that kind of work.

Well, how do you know if you qualify for mild retardation in certain areas?

I am extremely poor in certain areas, but no one has ever said or implied "mildly ***" in those areas.  The only things I ever got was "gives up too easily" or "doesn't try at all."

If I had to think I had some deficits that qualify for mild retardation--being the extreme perfectionist I am--I would probably elect to kill myself.  I have already been very hard on myself because of my perception that I have lacking intelligence.

A label like mild retardation for me, would be an extreme blow to what little self-esteem I have right now.

Why would you use these words to describe yourself, aliengirl???
Well, this is a depressing thread.  I provide evidence for my lack of intelligence everywhere on the AFF forums and here is the one thread I can post in that the rule is to "agree that one is learning disabled."

I shouldn't have stumbled across this thread.  It will only add to my depression.

I see too much of myself in the descriptions given in this thread.  I fear I will cause myself more pain by reading this.

I'd like to say "I don't fit in this category".. but my official IQ (from 9th grade) was 99.  Patheticness.

Unless someone will cheer me up and say I don't "fit the bill" here??  Please???
Why would anyone want to call themselves mildly *** or cognitively disabled?

There seems to be no point in doing so except to make yourself feel worse, and ruin your self-esteem for life.
I appear to have derailed Aliengirl's thread somewhat.  My apologies to her.

The reason for doing so is because of my self-image problem (I think I lack intelligence, etc.) and has nothing to do with anyone here really.. just my own petty self-image problem.

aliengirl Wrote:

Batman55 Wrote:
I appear to have derailed Aliengirl's thread somewhat.  My apologies to her.

The reason for doing so is because of my self-image problem (I think I lack intelligence, etc.) and has nothing to do with anyone here really.. just my own petty self-image problem.


Hi Batman55,

It's okay - and believe me, I really do understand what it is like to lack self-confidence.

Regarding why I describe myself as having mild retardation, I guess the short answer is that I have been consistently medically diagnosed as such.

It probably isn't the best way to describe myself, as "***" is used as an insult. But I am not ashamed of my diagnosis.
Also, I don't want to let people who use the term in a prejudiced way let me become afraid or ashamed of what I am and how nature made me.

Although it took a lot of time for me to learn not to be ashamed as my family and my peers made sure that I knew they considered me to be "defective".

As I got older and was able to gain better understanding of my 'differences' I realised that I have as much right to be here as anyone else. I do my best to be a good person and that is what counts - not the fact that I find a lot of things more difficult than the 'average' person.

I'm sorry that you are having difficulties with self-esteem and that this thread has made you feel more depressed - this was certainly not my intention.

I just wanted to meet others who had similar issues to me - although if people want to talk about their feelings in relation to these issues (lack of self-esteem, depression etc.) this is okay too as these things can often go with realising that you find a lot of things more difficult than others.

My hope is that by talking about feelings in relation to these issues, we can make each other feel better, not worse!



One of the ten best posts I've ever read here.

Aliengirl, you are going to do amazing things in this life.

Emmy Wrote:
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Batman,To have less IQ-points does not meen you are less valueble as a person.
It can often make a person more interesting,different and colorfull in a way.Intelligence has destroid the world in so many earias...
think of the atomic bomb...stupid is what stupid does,my oppinion.


Thank you for telling me the reason a lot of people find me interesting or different (in a good way) is because I lack IQ points/intelligence.  You've made my night.

I wish more parents were so tolerant and willing to build up their children's self-esteem.
Some people have treated me as if I'm unintelligent because sometimes I have to be told three times before I pick up a new concept but once it is in my mind, it stays there.

Much as I wouldn't like to be thought of as ***, I'd rather recognise that I have a few cognitive processing issues and sensory sensitivities than live in denial. That doesn't mean retardation, just being realistic.

Batman55 Wrote:

Pakrat Wrote:
Much as I wouldn't like to be thought of as ***, I'd rather recognise that I have a few cognitive processing issues and sensory sensitivities than live in denial. That doesn't mean retardation, just being realistic.


Why do you seem to insinuate here (esp. in the bolded print) that you possibly do have some form of mild retardation in specific areas?

Perhaps, and what is really wrong with that?

I thought I'd learned what was sarcasm and what wasn't but it looks as if I don't understand sarcasm quite so well. It's a bit of a worry.

grizeldatee Wrote:
Once upon a time I had to be the best at everything .... or I wouldn't do it at all.  It was "be the best" or nothing at all.  I missed out on a lot.  Nobody is the best at everything, and everyone has gifts.  I suppose I was in my 20s somewhere when it suddenly occurred to me that I simply had to be MY best, and life became much more fun and interesting.

It is also important to remember that there will always be somebody who will criticize what you are doing, no matter how well you do it.  Sometimes this is malice and sometimes it isn't.  The measure of an activity's worth is not what others say, but how you feel when you do it. And when/if some one says something about it, simply reply, "Yeah, but it feels good and makes me happy."  and smile ....


Only if it feels good and makes me happy.  If it doesn't, I'd prefer not to lie about it.

I've a strange skin condition that I'm not sure what it's called. If I scratch my skin and waits a few minutes there appears like a swelled up scar. It goes away within the hour. Anyone heard of it?
That's interesting. Thanks. I've never been allergic to anything. Well, never tested for anything so...
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But I answered one wrong - the questions seemed more focused around being introvert as opposed to an extrovert _ I thought.


I hope your day is happy ATM

All the Best from me to you.
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