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Anywhere, not just France. Might she be functional enough to hold a job? Remember, someone deemed mentally il in one time and place might be deemed a frikkin genius in another.

I just watch THE MESSENGER with Mila Jovovich as Jean D'arc. John Malkovich as Charles VII, and believe it or not, Dustin Hoffman is in this one too!
Oh Max, Oh Max, souls get born again, remember!

Anyhow, you remind me a quotation from somebody in a hebrew forum:
"Character gives the woman beauty, that time can't take."
Let's see, a teenage girl who says that God is talking to her ....  um, she's institutionalized and medicated out of her skull.

ichtms Wrote:

Ian Wrote:
*buggers ichtms.*

A highly esteemed member of my family has just died, so could you **** DROP the AS-rigid-belief-in-nothing-but-science bullshit.

Dooh.. :p


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hes joking.
she pribly would not remember being, the whole you remeber only snipits of other lives if your lucky.like DAja Vu

Allow me to explain further ...

The person of Jean d'Arc reincarnating into the 21st century ... with no memories of her life as an alleged heretic, witch, and madwoman ... in 1430's France. This person alive today exactly as she was. Would she find a crusade to fight in our time? Illiterate or educated?

From what I learned about Jean d'Arc from Hollywood's
THE MESSENGER, she doesn't strike me as the type who would obey doctor's orders and take her medicine. These meds would be in all likelihood anti-psychotics and mood-stabilizers. Was Jean's madness responsible for her so-called revelations? I tend to think to be touched by God is to be touched by madness. Ordinary minds can't withstand it, what it means to hear God's word. This is the creative exercise I meant to share with everyone at AFF.
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Friends and neighbours, where do you suppose Jean d'Arc's karma might take her?
if she was a worrior then what would be her oppoite. a venment peacful hurmet.
Indeed, violence begets violence and hate begets hate. Christian zeal will carry through to subsequent lives, as well. If you haven't noticed, this is all going towards some fiction-writing I'm-a gonna do.

;-)
I agree. One life on Earth doesn't seem like enough to prepare us for eternity in Heaven or Hell. Eternal life can be construed simply as the eternity of life. Christians ask, "Where am I going?" whereas Buddhists ask, "Where did I come from?"

I was baptised in the Catholic Church yet Buddha-Dharma has a lot of meaning for me. Before "I" was born in April 1979, "I" had made Buddhist as well as Christian karma. And Aspie karma, like everyone else here. I mean to suggest that the causes & conditions for my Aspie-ness were laid down by virtue of previous lives stretching back into beginngless time.

My cat Dixie and I must have had previous associations as different beings in order for this one to arise. Seeing as how they lack the means to get enlightened and wisdom as buddha, animals usually take rebirth in animal form.

Who here knows some Dharma?
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TheRiddler Wrote:
[size=xx-small]I agree. One life on Earth doesn't seem like enough to prepare us for eternity in Heaven or Hell. Eternal life can be construed simply as the eternity of life. Christians ask, "Where am I going?" whereas Buddhists ask, "Where did I come from?"

I was baptised in the Catholic Church yet Buddha-Dharma has a lot of meaning for me. Before "I" was born in April 1979, "I" had made Buddhist as well as Christian karma. And Aspie karma, like everyone else here. I mean to suggest that the causes & conditions for my Aspie-ness were laid down by virtue of previous lives stretching back into beginngless time.

My cat Dixie and I must have had previous associations as different beings in order for this one to arise. Seeing as how they lack the means to get enlightened and wisdom as buddha, animals usually take rebirth in animal form.

Who here knows some Dharma?

No, not Dharma & Greg. During her nineteen years of life as a peasant girl in France, Jean was a firebrand, a ruthless malcontent. Let's say that today in 2007 she (or he) works in a suburban shopping-mall. A sales-rep, something really dull and menial. An electronics place specializing in clocks, novelty items. Something stupid and about as UN-meaningful as you can get.

Jean's current invarnation works at Clock World, and is a mousy little thing. Needs some physical impairment. Also a severe phobia. Family scene is unusual. And of course Jean has mental-health issues but is employable...
Now I finally get the clue here
Muteness is interesting, Tigger. For one whom history records as so vocal .... fear of fire is logical, but isn't everyone afraid of fire? And panphobia, the fear of everything, is a bit too debiltating I think. But oh how I thank you for playing wih me!

Right now I'm wondering if this should be someone born in our era with Jean d'Arc's karmic profile or Jean D'Arc herself. Maybe her life here in the 21st century would somehow mirror her life in the 1400s.

TheRiddler Wrote:
I agree. One life on Earth doesn't seem like enough to prepare us for eternity in Heaven or Hell. Eternal life can be construed simply as the eternity of life. Christians ask, "Where am I going?" whereas Buddhists ask, "Where did I come from?"

I was baptised in the Catholic Church yet Buddha-Dharma has a lot of meaning for me. Before "I" was born in April 1979, "I" had made Buddhist as well as Christian karma. And Aspie karma, like everyone else here. I mean to suggest that the causes & conditions for my Aspie-ness were laid down by virtue of previous lives stretching back into beginngless time.

My cat Dixie and I must have had previous associations as different beings in order for this one to arise. Seeing as how they lack the means to get enlightened and wisdom as buddha, animals usually take rebirth in animal form.

Who here knows some Dharma?


A little through life experiences, but was unable to put a name to it until I recently read a novel set in modern Tibet.
I was very impressed by the behaviour of the Tibetan people....Buddhists portrayed in this book, so did a little research which answered many questions.

This brief snippet may help any who don't understand the concept of Buddhism.

Quote:
Dharma is the moral law combined with spiritual discipline that guides one's life. Hindus consider dharma the very foundation of life. The Atharva Veda describes dharma symbolically: Prithivim dharmana dhritam, that is, "this world is upheld by dharma".

Hinduism accepts the concept of reincarnation, and what determines the state of an individual in the next existence is karma which refers to the actions undertaken by the body and the mind. In order to achieve good karma it is important to live life according to dharma, what is right. This involves doing what is right for the individual, the family, the class or caste and also for the universe itself.

Dharma is like a cosmic norm and if one goes against the norm it can result in bad karma. So, dharma affects the future according to the karma accumulated. Therefore one's dharmic path in the next life is the one necessary to bring to fruition all the results of past karma.


I think that if Jean d'Arc was alive today, she ( meaning her differences to the norm of the era ) would be found in many people & places.

Emmy you are correct in that "violent" karma can be reduced only with "nonviolent" karma. If hatred breeds violence and violence breeds hatred, the only way to break that cycle of samsara* would be to renounce, forget, and forgive. One may not escape the negative causes & conditions in a single lifetime, but the door to peace is definitely opened. The hatred of humankind for its enemies oozes right out of them like radiation, permeating everything. It is a PYSCHIC POISON.

*samsara: the cycle of birth and death in which all sentient beings are imprisoned.
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