Aspies For Freedom

Aww come on this is jsut stupid. People shoudl be allowed to belive whatever they want. I am against fundamentalism and have my own religion.

hi i am a christian and everything in the bible is true and god loves us and gave his son so we might live i also have autism and aspergers syndrome as well i don't blame god for that either there is a reason why we have aspergers syndrome and autism god uses it for his glory through our weakness we are made strong we don't have to understand the bible and stuff its more just having faith and thats all sincerely brian

pikajedi,
  Now how did I just *know* that you and EvilZakkie were Pastafarians?  

  -BobB

Tigger,
  You, too...  

  -BobB

Leap of faith? The leap of faith that evidence can be used to reach a conclusion? There is an enormous amount of evidence supporting the big bang event. If you consider that to be a leap of faith, what about the following events: Is it a leap of faith to assume that the Sun will rise tomorrow as the Earth rotates on its axis once again? Is it a leap of faith to assume that I won't fall through my floor when I step on it due to the vast majority of space in solids being empty? Is it a leap of faith to assume that I and all my atoms won't disintegrate the next instant due to a failure of the Strong Nuclear Force? I really wouldn't call those leaps of faith.

That's really not the point of the Big Bang Theory. The point is to explain why the universe is the way it is. The scientists behind this Theory did not do the research to disprove your god. That would be futility as illustrated by Creasy.

EvilZakkie,
  So you believe in Schrodinger's God?  

  My take on it: The Universe in its entirety is God.  

  Scientists have Grand Unification Theories, which try to explain how the 4 fundamental forces in the Universe - gravity, electromagnetism, and the weak and strong nuclear forces - are all part of one singular force.

  One Force that controls everything in the Universe; this is something that has *definite* theological implications (and not just in Star Wars, either). I get the feeling that whether they realize it or not, science is searching for God.

  Christianity isn't unique; there are *many* religions that have Savior myths, i.e., things like virgin birth, ministry/miracles, persecution, death and resurrection, etc. The difference is that Christianity just had better PR.  

  As for the Bible, it went through a history of increasing inaccuracy. For example, the book of Genesis went through a couple thousand years of oral tradition *before* anyone wrote it down. The sources that make up Genesis - known to Biblical scholars as "J", "E", and "P" - were all written between 1000 BC and 500 BC. From there, the texts were translated from Aramaic and Hebrew to Greek, Latin, Old English, etc., inevitably gaining myriad transpositional errors along the way.

  I hate to say this, but to regard the Bible as 'infallible' is *completely* illogical.

  If there *was* a 'Word of God' handed down to Man, then the one source that *could* be trusted for accuracy would be the *first* generation, i.e., those who were there at the time. Anything beyond that would have had the potential for error, which increased geometrically as time passed.

  I kinda look at religion as unnecessary, anyway; *spirituality* is a matter of two basic guidelines:

    1) Love your God;

    2) Love your fellow Man;

  Jesus quoted these principles when asked "What is the greatest commandment?" (Matthew 22:34-40 and Mark 12:28-34), and if you look at most other religions, they'll have something similar as part of their basic tenets.

  But it all boils down to those simple principles; note that both are *positive*, not the 'hellfire-and-brimstone' bullshit that most religions indulge in.

  Are we enlightened now?  

  -BobB

But one is based upon evidence and the other is not. That is the key difference. One proposition must be taken on faith, while the other proposition is based upon evidence.

I am no less incredulous about them than any other religion. They don't provide evidence for their beliefs, and therefore I dismiss them outright. I do, however, find them to be more palatable than any of the Monotheistic religions as they do not proselytize or moralize nearly as much.

I believe there has to be a God, To many things breakdown if you remove God. And christianity makes the most sense from a "scientific viewpoint". They have found evidence for the great flood, have found no grave for jesus even though he was buried in a tomb in a major city at the time. you would think that if the tomb had something in it they would show it everywhere. But they apparently have not. THIS PROVES THAT SOMETHING HAPPENED! And the body wasn't stolen. Ten guys who had the(pardon my language) $H!T.; Ten freaking fisherman defeated an entire fully trained and armed Roman Century? I personally do not think so. Then the Guards had to stay KO'ed so the disciples could move the several ton stone, and steal the body. But in the Bible the stone is said to be broken and/or cracked. To me this proves that god is real. And I am willing to risk my eternal soul on this. Because i do not think of it as a risk. Because I have accepted Jesus into my heart and I am thankful for my Asperger's syndrome, it makes me me. I have felt different everyday of my life since I accepted Jesus into my life and have never regretted it. I really have no point but that i believe in god and that this guy is wrong, and I had to respond to the criticism.

Iriver_s10,
  They *did* find the ossuary containing what are alleged to be the Bones of Jesus...  :-)

  Along those lines, what if God's plan was for the Second Coming to occur at a time when Jesus would return by having the DNA from His bones regenerated and cloned, and Christians *prevented* it from happening by making sure cloning was banned?

  -BobB

Pikajedi,
  And they say we have no sense of humor...

  BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!  

  -BobB

The Footprints of God by Gail Brown



In deepest sleep one night I dreamed that on the beach I walked

God was by my side each step and quietly we talked.

Then on the sky my life was flashed; the visions all serene.

Two sets of footprints in the sand, were there in every scene. But then I noticed

in some scenes of suffering, pain and strife.. Just a single set of footprints

At the worst times of my life

God --- you said you'd stay by me in good times and in bad--- why then did you leave me each time life was sad?

My precious child, God answered, when your life had pain, I knew, the single set of footprints where the times I carried you.

Tigger the wing - can I ask here off topic - the kids and I were driving the other day - and a bunch of different types of bikes - were out due to the nice weather.  Well ds, (strong sense of smell) could smell that each bike smelled differently - anyway, I told him about 1, 2 etc., stroke engines - like what I knew about jet skis/wave runners and motor boats - but I don't know about motorcycles (other than how to ride them).  HE said Oh, can we ask Tigger the wing?  Well,  I don't know where you can answer this - liek which thread but do you know?  HE wanted to know what engine your current OR previous bike has/had.... he thinks you are great! (ME TOO) (Just like your son his school called and he is home (apparently not monday morning blues) possible upset stomach.... so he is home now and asked me about it - maybe I can get him to do an independent study on bikes this week.

Oh, See I didn't read Guess Whos post as antagonistic or against Korrigans - it seemed to me it spurred on an idealogical/intellectual idea to further the thread.  I find this thread very intersting - like the liveliness also!
I do not personally think christianity is wrong - but am not offended, at all, by people with other beliefs _ I know that you aren't either Korrigan.  Loved you poem/joke.!  (it's me atypical)

FOund it....the joke.\
During torrential rain, a flood forces a man to climb onto the roof of his isolated house. Being a true believer, he waits for a sign, and waits, and waits, and waits. A couple of hours later, by which time the water has reached the first floor, a boat passes and the people huddled together call out to him to join them, but he calls back "No thanks, God will save me." They go on their way and the man waits and waits and waits, by which time the water has reached the bottom of the roof, and a second boat passes by, but again he refuses their offer of help and says "God will save me." Another hour later and he's clinging to the chimney as the house begins to be swept away by the raging waters, when he suddenly notices a rope ladder dangling beside him. He looks up and sees a helicopter hovering overhead, with the pilot beckoning frantically with his free hand to climb the ladder, but the man shakes his head with a smile and shouts up. "Go away, God will save me." The helicopter flies away, and not long afterwards the water sweeps the house from beneath the man, who soon drowns. Standing in line to heaven, he finally reaches the gates and sees God behind the gates. "Why did you let me die?" He calls out in anger. "All my life I believed in you, and you let me die!" God frowns for a moment, presumably trying to remember which one of his many worshippers the man is, then replies with a mixed tone of surprise and frustration "I sent you two boats and a helicopter, and you're trying to say it's my fault?"