Aspies For Freedom

Well Dostum was a follower of Islam and Palpatine was Darth Sidious, evil lord of the Sith--so I suppose to a christian they both represent 'the dark side of the force'

.  You have other disorders... list them.  I can help you find the appropriate boads   

Yeti, having worked in a mental hospitaal, we're all to familiar with -- and amused by -- the phenomenon by which the craziest character in the hospital fancies himself a doctor. You seem to have set up such a fantasy here and you've devided the entire board into those who seek guidance and a cure from you and those who are evil, drug-ridden, psychotic hooligans.

That's crazy.

You can help me? That's so kind. but before you hang out a shingle and begin practicing, you need to assemble the shattered fragments of your own mind.

We have only your word for the former, and it contradicts all evidence. As for the latter, that's really just another delusion on your part. Do you want my doctors' names? What are you even talking about?

To coin a phrase, psychotic, heal thyself.

Obviously, I never said that, but you're not one to let reality intrude.

Asperger's is not necessarily a medical challenge, Yetti. You don't understand this because you worship at the alter of pathology, and you focus on asperger's as a sickness. You mistake your own sickness for the sickness of all Aspies. Such is not the case.

The goal of this site is to free Aspies from the kind of toxicity you live and breathe. You're the ultimate curebie, and you believe you alone are the cure. You want to tell everyone else how sick and inferior they are so that you can be their savior. It keeps you from looking at what a mess your own life is. You're a crusader. You seek to pathologize everyone to a level below yourself.

To me, this is exploitation. If there are some that want it, that's their choice. So is seeking diagnosis or not, so is deciding how they want to live their lives. If you were a healthier person, you would grant them that.

But, no , it's "you are all sick and I will save you." Such a nasty way of preying on people who may feel insecure.

You talk constantly about people coming here for "help" -- and always, of course, with the implication that you are their answer. (All who reject you are hooligans and losers -- bad mothers, bad spouses, bad, bad, bad.) but in fact there are many reasons to come to this board and the over-arching one is to remove the stigma from Aspergers. You, of course, already dismissed the entire idea of a "movement." You love the stigma, you perpetuate the stigma, and you want to be  the great savior who can "cure" them.

People make choices, Yeti. They don't have to be your choices.

The point of this website is freedom. That's something you don't like. It threatens you.

Max are you a doctor?  You don't even have Asperger's first accoreding to you and then from many others.  You have no authority to give people medical advice. Doctors are not only about meds but correct CBT.

You are a secondary school social studies teacher who for some odd reason wants to stay on an aspie board when he does not even has asperger's . Most your posts are about the World according to Max and you try to chase off anyone who disagrees according to MANY .

.  You have other disorders... list them.  I can help you find the appropriate boads   

As for me... I have a great report from several doctors... what are you afraid of Max?  Why do you fear doctors?  I have a good idea what your disorder challenges are.. but try to get to the point you will discuss them in public.  Telling people who have medical challenges not to seek professional help  is major  destructive.  

A few more points for the lost cause.

a) Most of the people who dislike your posts on these forums are officially diagnosed Aspies - not that it's relevant. Personally, I enjoy having some NT's around for a different perspective.

b) I believe most people on the forum will support people seeking psychiatric help for problems. What we don't support is ramming psychiatry down peoples throats every single post, or telling people to seek psychiatric help when they don't agree with you. People come here to share experiences, not to get contacts for psychiatrists.

c) The only reason you are getting any supportive PM's on these forums is that there's a lot of very sweet people who do not enjoy conflict. What many don't realise is that an offensive person can poison the forums to the extent that they are no longer enjoyable for others.

d) Finally, the reason I, personally, have a problem with you is that you seem to believe that Aspergers is nothing more than a problem that has to be dealt with - which is exactly what this board is about getting away from. I found the rarest of things here - a group of self-actualised, intelligent, creative, caring and generally amazing people that actually like who they are.

I'm writing this mostly for others reading along, as I believe Yetti is a lost cause. The only thing I can say to Yetti is to have a look at the curebie forums - you'll probably find people more like yourself there, and you'll actually be doing us a favour by disrupting them.

Yetti Wrote:

EvilZakkie Wrote:

Yetti Wrote:

BTW Asperger's is a blessing from God. Not a problem

If you believe this, then please stop talking about it as a problem to be treated.

For me, finding this forum was about me wanting to learn about the person I am by sharing the experiences of others. I would have been mortified if someone had replied to me early on by saying "You have problems. Go to a psychiatrist".

This is the crux of the issue people have with you.

what other disorders do YOU have along with Aspergers?  The problem is that people are not treating other disorders they may have along with aspergers.. there is no treatment for aspergers!  There is nothing wrong with aspergers... There are methods for children to learn to live in an NT world.. You want to deny aspie children of this help?    

There is treatment for accompanying disorders which make life very difficult for aspies. There is therapy to help an aspie function in an NT world that does not understand our world and our heads.... this can make for a very difficult life especially in finding a job..

Again, I am not against psychiatry, I am only against it being rammed down peoples throats. If someone asks where they can find help for a particular issue, that's a good time to recommend a psychiatrist. If someone talks about cultural oddities, or about being uncomfortable in a particular social situation, telling them to "go see a psychiatrist" is not appropriate.

hmmm.

EvilZakkie Wrote:

[quote=Yetti]
BTW Asperger's is a blessing from God. Not a problem

If someone talks about cultural oddities, or about being uncomfortable in a particular social situation, telling them to "go see a psychiatrist" is not appropriate.

hmmm.

Here's one where you are suggesting people who disagree with you should see a psychiatrist.

And another:

Marike... my psychiatrist and therapists know me well.. It is not needed. Perhaps you yourself need to look into these.  BTw Harry Potter was too busy... we will wait. <G>

WHen was the last time you talked with a psychiatrist or Aspie speicalist?

Look up the word arrogance.  You are misusing it.   I think I just pushed the right buttons for yours to return.. that is all.

Now its attitude.. and yours?  You dissed long term marriages , you claimed I could not possibly have a great long term marriage you diagnosed me as manic depressive adn arrogant and should be on meds.. and where did you get your medical degree?  Or are you using me to talk to yourself?

I would suggest your work on yourself as well. I am not a therapist but I sense jealousy.  That is immature.  All this time you are addressing me when you stated you were helping Guess who ,who you think is in deep dark dispair and about to jump off a bridge or something unless you help him... now who is the rescuer type?

Perhaps you need to focus on you now... your short marriage and I have not seen your credentials have not asserted any merits of any response you give.  I do denote major jealousy.... but that is your problem if you insist on shadowing my posts... and want to diagnose me and tell me what you think of me.. and that is helping?  

IN all honesty I find your information very uneducated, lacking experience, insecure and demanding attention.  

Best wishes to having a long term marriage but then again you don't believe in them. Have u even read the articles?  Oh yes, those articles are by arrogant people thinking they are happy when YOU KNOW long term married people are not .. just arrogant that they think they are

And another, this time where you actually call self-diagnosed people predators:

Here's one where you recommend seeing a psychiatrist for no apparent reason:

...And then you actually go on to insult her for not seeing a psychiatrist:

Here you recommended Max see a psychiatrist for not agreeing with you:

...I think I've made my point.

And what gets you in trouble -- character disorders aside -- is your inability to read. I didn't say you said "homosexuality is an illness." (Have someone re-read my post for you.) And as for attributing false statements to others, I've seen you do that to Srah, Rossco, me and -- most outrageously -- Tigger. You can't pretend you oppose a practice when you're the only one practicing it.

Apparently you don't understand the concept of NT. Nor do you grasp that nerodiversity includes NT's anyway. Nor do you understand that NT's are not the enemy. Nor do you know anything about my doctors or my disorders. I've never seen a person get so much logorrhea out of so little knowledge.

God, you never tire of lying. I have ADHD. I have an excellent psychiatrist and a psychologist. Occasional but not "serious" depression, no personality disorders (shadow syndrome histrionic, but not enough to qualify for any sort of treatment.) I've done a depression class, one on anxiety. I tried to take a DBT class but, again, didn't qualify. Ah -- wait: mild dyslexia.

Of course it doesn't matter how many times I say any of these things, you'll be lying about them in the next thread.

I love it when you're incoherent.

Well, Yeti, since you've been busted several dozen times in just a couple of days telling lie after lie after lie, I think you'll have to do more than just imagine in order to shift the serial-liar thing away from yourself.

Well, if that's the level of pulling-things-out-of our-asses you want to play, I think you kidnap infants and bite their fingers and toes off. And that is WAY too bad.

It would make some people very happy if I hated myself, but -- well, I'm not given to the grandiosity and delusions that characterize your manic flights, so I'll just say I'm a pretty good guy.

Trust me, Yeti. No one here envies your personal greatness. And even though your struggling narcissism makes you imagine yourself Queen of Aspies, I know some pretty wonderful Aspie people. And frankly, you're an embarrassment to them. Sorry if that's harsh. But I guess it's up to me to be the honest one in this exchange.