Aspies For Freedom

A very good point.

I don't understand who your post is intended for.

Everyone or Ian?

Isn't there only one Bible?

Yes I know that there have been different translations of the original Bible & translations of translations, but surely the modern day Bible is the same in Western culture.

So in short what you are saying is that there are many Bibles.

There is only one true Bible, the first collection of books written by various people ie.the first unadulterated one.

All of the others have been translated & amended to suit the various Christian faiths.

I think that you have hit the nail on the head.
I would also add that many oppressors use devious behind the scenes methods in order to  obtain / maintain their objectives & to further oppress.

Freedom of speech is essential to obtain / maintain balance & equality.

Yes you are all correct about those who complain having their faces in the through first.

Lots of sense
Can't believe you had to spend 6 hours to fill out a 50 page form!! YIKES. Paperwork.

Thanks Mahler5 , this is very much appreciated.
The forms are deliberately  complicated in order to put off would be claimants & it is a very effective measure !!!

Unfortunately, it is the ones who are most ill, intimidated & uneducated  & who need the help most who are put off by them.

Do you live in the same world as the rest of us?
I live in the UK, I have paid National Insurance stamp for all of my working life, This  involuntary contribution is made in order to give us benefits should we need them.

Even if you were to assume that I wasn't ill, please tell me where in the UK I would be able to receive training?
If I was able to receive training, who at age 57, is going to employ me?

This makes no sense whatsoever in particular the part which I have underlined:-

Here are two ill, courageous  & wise women who spend a great deal of time helping other people ( a lot more than I ever could ), despite their personal problems.

These two do not carry on & shout at other people because the others disagree.

They help, help & help, often despite the fact that the people who they are trying to help don't or can't listen to their good advice....they persevere because they understand.
They see a problem & do their damnedest to do something about it.

In my opinion they deserve a medal....not dissent.

tenaciouscj...you are quite right pride does not put food on the table.

No its not.. some already stated they are or are waiting to be. No where did I state all. And many have stated they are self diagnosed. Considering other disorder ride along asperger's , those disorders are not being handled.

No where did I belittle people. As I stated before if you are uncomfortable with the facts so be it.  Don't blame others.

There are many who are showing that they do not even understand their asperger's much less the other behavior they are exhibiting that reflect possible other disorders.  This makes for Bedlham..... Just post after post of attacks each day or hour.

One here who is the most verbal in personal attacks did not even know what an aspie melt down is. That makes me suspect of this person even have aspergers.. this is the internet... anyone can claim anything.

I am sure there ae some who are even involved with illegal drugs for self medication.  And are these people suppose to have coherant communication?

It is fact pedophelia is heavy on the internet.. I would not be too surprized if the board carries a few and they are the first to attack  me for discussing it.

Welfare does little except to make a person dependant and not seek their own achievements....the best thing we can do as society is to make sure children are diagnosed early, educate their parents and the public, and provide medication which helps.

People can create their own businesses on the internet if they cannot work in the public... but to me, being versitile has a better chance of survival...

The more we can educate society about asperger's , the better it will be for aspies and the world.   Having any tom dick or harry come on these boards and act like sheer hooligans does nothing for the cause of those of us who truly have Aspergers.

In fact its embarassing to see such behavior touted as from an aspie.
Therefore these boards, with exception of fact communication mean little.

2% of us are functionally employed... the percentage of that 2% for great success is even smaller.  How difficult it is for an aspie who is successful to give the world facts and hope to other aspies when such hooliganism perpetuates itself as aspieness.

I will keep dropping info when I deem necessary... for those who seriously want answers and for those who really have asperger's or have children with aspergers and do not want to end up as the 98% who cannot get jobs or function in society...

Best of luck to everyone... Email me anytime.. I will pop in from time to time ...WHEN I have time... Cheers

quickduck Wrote:

Yetti Wrote:

I get the feeling some people are on this board all the time because they are not in therapy and/or they on are the societies payroll and not working.  

I am against Public welfare and it would behoove an aspie and society to get $$ for Behavioral therapy and not sitting on the internet all day.  

Its more than a little presumptuous to assume that people on this board require therapy or else they should be in employment. Many people don‘t work for medical reasons, others may be retired or be too young to work. A single parent bringing up a child is at least as valuable as someone in paid employment. Some people here may be in receipt of welfare--but that doesn’t mean they’re worth any less than someone who’s working.

Yetti Wrote:

Attacking people in discussions will not serve to help an aspie learn need skills to work with others in a social group.

On the contrary--attacking someone who belittles others and behaves in a high-handedly manner toward those who don’t agree with her world view--helps an aspie develop very good social skills and brings an understand of the dynamics of conflict.  

Yetti Wrote:

To many are not even diagnosed here, meaning they probably have other disorders which are not being addressed.

Just because someone isn’t officially diagnosed doesn’t mean “they probably have other disorders”. Nor does it mean they’re not an aspie. It just means they don’t have an official diagnosis--that’s all.

Yetti Wrote:

The issues discussed here can be found in more controlled places. .esp if there are people on the board using controlled substances illegally and venting on the internet.

Where did that come from? Are we all drug users now?

All that I see here is a self proclaimed highly educated person.

Who cannot quote, or chooses to misquote  other people to her own ends.

Who speaks as if English is her third language.

Who speaks & rants incoherently with no knowledge or substance to her superior knowledge

Who accuses anyone who disagrees with her as being a liar / on drugs / mentally ill  / deliberately not working /  requiring therapy etc.

Who has no knowledge of medical services in her own country & certainly not in any others.

Who has access to doctors who are at the top of their profession.

Who has such terrible meltdowns that she needs to hide in the bathroom....but never has one at work.

Who is about as hard core aspie as you can find.

What can I say!!
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I am 57 with a long and widespread family history of undiagnosed & diagnosed Asperger's

Uuuum where is that coffee or tea that we were talking about?