Aspies For Freedom - Why christianity is wrong

Like the translation error that gave birth to the idea of an actual apple from a tree in paradise?

tenaciouscj Wrote:

Ian Wrote:

The apple is carnal sin =p

So it would have actually been a sausage? Big Grin

Well, you are very, very close with that answer... Rolleyes

tenaciouscj Wrote:

To further my hypothesis, it was said that eve was tempted by a serpent, otherwise known as a snake.

Yes, that fits neatly.

Yetti Wrote:

Tigger_the_Wing Wrote:

So it is urgent that I spend money I cannot afford, for a piece of paper that won't help me one iota, at the age of 49 - but you and your friend were ok waiting until you were 56?,

If you have it you can afford to spend $$ on a diagnosis..If you did motorcycles you can afford to spend $$ on diagnosis... You chose to have 5 kids.... Now you complain about no money.

It is best to be diagnosed early so progress can be made..��just guessing doesn't work.��As for the motorcycles.. give them up and get medical help.

No you are not us... We have one child each....we have years of education under our belts , family who worked with us, and trained ourselves with NO internet help...... to livewith NTs and work successfully... My friend is suffering... I suffered.. and If I had known I had Aspergers at an early age I would have spent what it took to get a diagnosis and information.

If you can move a family of 7 from one country to another around the world... you can spend $$ to get diagnosed.

Hanging on these boards is not a substitute for medical help.

what if you have noo money all of it is going twards rent?

Tigger_the_Wing Wrote:

Oh, you didn't answer her question. Did you miss it?

miss yetti i asked a question,i wanted your insight, would you be willing to share some, perhasp in the nice maner you just spoke.

i guess not. Sad

hrick Wrote:

Guardian asks "what if you have noo money all of it is going twards rent? "

Well then, I guess you have the option of going the public services route. Again, it is a mixed bag.��When practicing there were some providers within the system who were dedicated, exceptional individuals of considerable talent and value... there were others I wouldn't take my dog to. It is all in the luck of the draw.. and a bit of knowing where to draw from.��In consequence some may choose not to bother.��. Others may take a chance and succeed... or fail. Outcome��largely depends on the individual themself as well as who is working the other end of your appointment.

Some benefit from diagnosis. For others simply "knowing" what their difference is, without diaganosis, may be enough. Where additional symptomology presents like depression, add, ocd, etc. for which medication might prove helpful, it might just be worth a try... especially if the worst that could happen is youf being left no better off than where you started... problem is, based on what some have reported, I'm not sure that is the worst that can happen.��Sounds like some of you have suffered far worse for having made the effort.��Can we leave it as it is a highly personal and very difficult decision? No right or wrongs to it.

Mom
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helppful as alway mrs hyricks mom. Big Grin

Hricks mom always knows how to make things right. Smile

Yetti Wrote:

Max , its fact. there is one more now. Smile

make it 11.

Max the Bear Wrote:

Yetti Wrote:

And THANKS to the 10 people who sent me supporting private messages.

Oh, how sad.

Or is it funny?

Either way, it's a lie.

At any��rate, it appears Dorothy threw a bucket of water on her and she's had a very literal melt down...

cool i think.

Yetti Wrote:

Tigger_the_Wing Wrote:

Oh, you didn't answer her question. Did you miss it?

Yes I did miss it...

What if they have no money? in a case where a woman claims she has no $$$ 5 kids and can't afford a diagnosis of all her disorders, and then in the following posts claims her kids are grown, her husband is a head hunter with government benefits and has massive property in Ireland.... ... She has money!��She does not want to go to a psychiatrist.

In the case of others who have no $$... state provides psychiatrists.. they do in UK.. they do IN USA.

really?

do you have to want a dx to get one though.isnt that the first step?

Yetti Wrote:

Yes you do have to have the "Wanna" as I usually state.��There is often other disorders accompanying Asperger's and more often than not those can be neutral ized.. too often things like OCD which about 25% of all aspies have can be too debilitating to even work with the aspergers or at least make it very difficult... There are meds which neutralize OCD... this is true for Bi Polar or Hyper or Hypo Manic��or borderline personallity disorder, or ODD (oppositional Defiant Disorder) etc.��Each challenge needs to be taken care of.. this even includes disorders in other areas of the brain and not the basal Ganglia.. such as Schezophrenia or sociopathic disorders.

guardian001 Wrote:

do you have to want a dx to get one though.isnt that the first step?

can meds really help, some have bad side effects thoigh i suppose its all aboit risks.

EvilZakkie Wrote:

Yetti Wrote:

EvilZakkie Wrote:

Yetti Wrote:

BTW Asperger's is a blessing from God. Not a problem Smile

If you believe this, then please stop talking about it as a problem to be treated.

For me, finding this forum was about me wanting to learn about the person I am by sharing the experiences of others. I would have been mortified if someone had replied to me early on by saying "You have problems. Go to a psychiatrist".

This is the crux of the issue people have with you.

what other disorders do YOU have along with Aspergers?��The problem is that people are not treating other disorders they may have along with aspergers.. there is no treatment for aspergers!��There is nothing wrong with aspergers... There are methods for children to learn to live in an NT world.. You want to deny aspie children of this help?��

There is treatment for accompanying disorders which make life very difficult for aspies. There is therapy to help an aspie function in an NT world that does not understand our world and our heads.... this can make for a very difficult life especially in finding a job..

Again, I am not against psychiatry, I am only against it being rammed down peoples throats. If someone asks where they can find help for a particular issue, that's a good time to recommend a psychiatrist. If someone talks about cultural oddities, or about being uncomfortable in a particular social situation, telling them to "go see a psychiatrist" is not appropriate.

hmmm.

Off topic: is it really necessary to quote fully each time, back and forth?

I think a something like this

Yigal Wrote:

would do it as well as
...
quoting the whole text.

Give some context so the reader knows what one is corresponding to, and together with the user name in the quote it should be sufficient. Otherwise, it is not only hard to follow sometimes, but also a waste of <time/space/memory>.

Thank you.

Emmy Wrote:

I am a bit sad that I heard that some Christians occupiad Yule and renamed it Cristmas.
Apperently Jesus was born on another day then the one we selebrate.

it was saturnila at that time or the winter solice festiuval depends on where you take your sourse from.

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