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Best Meltdown Ever!! Just irrational, disregulated screaming with no coherent thought process behind it. Shrieking accusations, spouting lies, attacking in every direction!

It's a full-scale Yeti-Fest!

hrick Wrote:
I worked for a number of years in the area of social services and ...


...and your job was to judge the people you were there to help?

It's always interesting to me that out of the trillions of abused dollars the government wastes on corporate hand-outs and illegal wars, there's a certain kind of moral vigilante who is most concerned that some poor person is going to sneak an extra cookie out of the jar.

Republican Values at their finest.

GuessWho Wrote:
Lately, the Republicans in Virginia have been so hard on the immigrants, especially those who cannot demonstrate permission to reside legally, it seems they are finally giving sexual minorities a break?  Mind you, this is only a political observation, and it is not my political party.


Hating gay people is not as popular as it used to be, but since the Republican party has run every election since at least 1968 on hate, they need some other scapegoat group to rally their natural constituency of haters.

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4th October 2007 18:30
Ruth Owen

A survey in the United States conducted by the Barna Group between 2004 and now has found that both Christians and non-Christians have a 'bad impression' of Christianity.

The religion is also waning in popularity with a rapid increase in people describing themselves as 'non-Christian' since the same poll was conducted in 1996.

Surveying 440 Christians and the same amount of non-believers, nine out of ten non-Christians found Christians too "anti-homosexual."

Almost the same amount viewed it as "hypocritical" and "judgmental." Seventy-five percent thought Christianity was "too involved in politics."

Of believers, 80% identified "anti-homosexual" as a negative adjective describing Christianity today.

One of the most frequent criticisms of young Christians, according to the Barna Group report "was that they believe the church has made homosexuality a "bigger sin" than anything else.

Moreover, they claim that the church has not helped them apply the biblical teaching on homosexuality to their friendships with gays and lesbians.

Hypocrisy was also a main concern with 52% of Christians aged 16-29 agreeing with 85% of non-believers that Christianity is "hypocritical — saying one thing doing another."

Fifty percent identified their faith as "too involved in politics." Forty-four percent found it "confusing."

Overall, the Barna found that the younger generation is much more sceptical and critical of Christianity today, whether they are or are not believers.

Christianity's 'image problem', as Time magazine describes it, is in need of a major overhaul.

GuessWho Wrote:
This morning on news radio, a feature story indicated that a study reported that areas of greater immigrant presence had lower gas prices, as immigrants seemed more price sensitive to gas purchases.  A local TV station is doing a report on immigration enforcement and housing prices.

I have guessed the reason I am paying relatively low rent is because many of my neighbors (vecinos, more precisely) are not fortunate to earn as much as I.  Or in other words, in my line of work, collectively, all of us would not stand to be paid and given lack of benefits like my neighbors get in their jobs.  Many people might say "we have education and they don't" or "we are American born and raised and they aren't".  

The more basic issue is that employers in the United States have done as they wished unless forced to do otherwise, such as in times of war when they had to hire women in munitions factories, or under conditions of strong demand and weak supply, when computers were hot 10 years ago.  But you know what happened to the women when the men came back from the war: Rosie the Riveter became Rosie the Homemaker (I couldn't think of a cute way to phrase that)

Some women would have preferred the economic independence of being paid in work, but given the baby boom after the war, a fair few must have taken to home making.

I feel that Christianity is extremely rigid and has too many rules.

Tim

timhomer2007 Wrote:
I feel that Christianity is extremely rigid and has too many rules.

Tim

Yes, I was brought up in a very religious family and now guilt stalks me much of the time because I haven't been able to keep all of the rules.

Natalie Wrote:
They could according to Answers in Genesis, a website that proclaims that everything in the bible is meant to be taken literally. They think the Earth is 6,000 years old and a "global flood" covered even the highest mountain ranges. They even think that Noah brought two of every kind of dinosaur (!) onto the ark.

My understanding was that the New Testament superseded the old and that the old testament is now simply a historical document which is not to be taken literally.

SoulSick Wrote:

Pakrat Wrote:

Natalie Wrote:
They could according to Answers in Genesis, a website that proclaims that everything in the bible is meant to be taken literally. They think the Earth is 6,000 years old and a "global flood" covered even the highest mountain ranges. They even think that Noah brought two of every kind of dinosaur (!) onto the ark.

My understanding was that the New Testament superseded the old and that the old testament is now simply a historical document which is not to be taken literally.


Then you've never actually studied the bible for yourself.

Jesus's whole theology rests on him being the promised messiah of the old testament prophets, the whole of christianity doesn't make sense if adam, moses, noah, etc were not real people, as jesus refers to them as historical in the absolute sense.


Sure, but that doesn't mean we should go around stoning people. After all, Jesus said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" and "we have all sinned and fallen short of God's glory". If one took these to their logical conclusion, there would be NO justification for stoning anybody at all.

bleh, i'm sticking to non-denom. don't have to worry about going to church and all that crap. =P

~Kaz

GuessWho Wrote:
Sometimes, can't your OCD make you susceptible to giving compulsively for the wrong reason?  Then you feel taken.  Anyone else think so?

Yes, I think so, and some religions and charities prey upon this feeling of guilt to get you to donate even more.

I think she shambled off to an unknown point in the wilderness....
It might be just as credible to believe that the universe started with a sprinkle of fairy dust.....
I guess part of my idea comes from my annoyance at Steve Hawking. Now I think the man has amazing accomplishments but as a person, I'm not sure I like too much of what I've read about him.
That sounds like Terry Pratchett Smile

Korrigan Wrote:

So I am way late on this conversation, but I just read and LOVED - Lamb - The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal

I am a heathen, but think most people would find the book pretty darn funny, Christian or not.


I'll look out for it - sounds funny 'Biff' great name.Rolleyes

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