Not to worry Soulsick, God loves you anyway.
Oh tenacious, you are too cute!
Not to worry Erkolos, God can handle it... his followers too , although some do unfortunately have a bit more difficulty with the criticism I suppose. If I measured God strictly by what is written in the Bible I'd probably have a bit of trouble with him myself. Personnally I prefer to see him in my niece's new baby and the beauty of the day rather than in what man has written of him. Man is fallible, after all.
Ando
I didn't know Jews didn't believe in heaven or hell.... that is very interesting to me, especially given Hrick's view of things. Thanks
Mom
And I thought we were all doing so well keeping to the lighter side. sigh.
Mom
Why do you fight over theory when you have the opportunity to practice what it is you say you believe? To disagree with oppression while strong arming another, I do not respect. it is the respect derived from seeing the individual over the label that will ultimately defeat discriminations of all kinds. I do not have your education or voice. Living acceptance is the best example.
I am confirmed Catholic. It does not mean I place man's judgment above God's. gd does not make mistakes. To create a Gay man is to do so with purpose just as to create a disabled is with purpose. It is only the fact they are in minority that leads to the opportunity for oppression. I do not have to understand the purpose to know one exists. This is natural to my faith. Aetheists need figure it out via another reasoning. I will leave them to answer for them.
Hrick
How fast you reply. I understand. But people create the systems. People can change them. to see my friend as gay makes it impossible to ignore another being reviled for it. Just that act would make others safe if shared. Do you have a better way?
Hrick
i will have mom read it to me. thank you. i want to learn more to change it, not argue about it.
hrick
Certainly everyone should endeavour to stand on their own two feet; but there are people who suffer illness, go through divorce or loose their job through no fault of their own. To deny these people the safety net of welfare lacks compassion. The idea that we live in some sort of perfect world where appropriate jobs and training are available to all is a nonsense.
Yetti, pull your horns in. You are ranting again. You'll get spittle all over your keyboard.
And you are not discussing the topic as usual . 
It's hard to discuss anything with someone who rants.
I get the feeling some people are on this board all the time because they are not in therapy and/or they on are the societies payroll and not working.
I am against Public welfare and it would behoove an aspie and society to get $$ for Behavioral therapy and not sitting on the internet all day.
Its more than a little presumptuous to assume that people on this board require therapy or else they should be in employment. Many people don‘t work for medical reasons, others may be retired or be too young to work. A single parent bringing up a child is at least as valuable as someone in paid employment. Some people here may be in receipt of welfare--but that doesn’t mean they’re worth any less than someone who’s working.
Attacking people in discussions will not serve to help an aspie learn need skills to work with others in a social group.
On the contrary--attacking someone who belittles others and behaves in a high-handedly manner toward those who don’t agree with her world view--helps an aspie develop very good social skills and brings an understand of the dynamics of conflict.
To many are not even diagnosed here, meaning they probably have other disorders which are not being addressed.
Just because someone isn’t officially diagnosed doesn’t mean “they probably have other disorders”. Nor does it mean they’re not an aspie. It just means they don’t have an official diagnosis--that’s all.
The issues discussed here can be found in more controlled places. .esp if there are people on the board using controlled substances illegally and venting on the internet.
Where did that come from? Are we all drug users now?
I worked for a number of years in the area of social services and to be frank what I found was a mix. Some families receiving welfare were more than deserving, the victims of unfortunate circumstances or just trying to survive on what was simply a poor wage and limited earned income. Others, most especially those who were third and fourth generation welfare, had all but made a science of using and beating the system, even going so far as to calculate when they needed to become reimpregranted so as not to be dropped from the system. I actually agree with Yetti in thinking, as currently designed, the system actually does hinder more than it helps because its set up is not conducive to navigation by the neuvo poor, nor is it set up with incentives or added benefits available for those who do want to help themselves eventually work their way off the roles. Even at its best the system is substantially flawed and those who seek to reform it have never experienced it to recognize what and where modifications would be truly productive.
Mom
I worked for a number of years in the area of social services and to be frank what I found was a mix. Some families receiving welfare were more than deserving, the victims of unfortunate circumstances or just trying to survive on what was simply a poor wage and limited earned income. Others, most especially those who were third and fourth generation welfare, had all but made a science of using and beating the system, even going so far as to calculate when they needed to become reimpregranted so as not to be dropped from the system.
Fair point...its not black and white issue. Some people do exploit the system--others are derserving of help.
Is this a serious disagreement or are both having a bit of fun?
If it so serious perhaps you should consider insulting each other via PM.
Fo shizzle ma nizzle.
I had to look that one up in a slang dictionary--not nice!
Max asks:
...and your job was to judge the people you were there to help?
Actually yes, in certain circumstances. It would all depend on who the client was at the time. Parent, child or eventually system itself. If you have an actual interest in the specifics of what my work was I'd be happy to share it with you PM,
Max states:
"It's always interesting to me that out of the trillions of abused dollars the government wastes on corporate hand-outs and illegal wars, there's a certain kind of moral vigilante who is most concerned that some poor person is going to sneak an extra cookie out of the jar."
In response:
I'm sure these folks exist. ... but in this instance, to be frank, my concern was the welfare of the child/children who were serving as source of those government dollars and I expect my position on things often cost the government more than a "few cookies". To the extent I did my job correctly it hopefully helped a lot of children and some families in end.
Max quote:
"Republican Values at their finest".
Your portrayal may or may not be a reflection of Republican values at their finest, but as to me personally... well thank you for the chuckle.
Mom
Yes but who would hire someone without education...?
Ian:- I may be wrong but I think Emmy was making a general comment rather than saying something specifically against you.
Thankfully Im not in possesion of the knowlegde that is nessasery to translate that phrase
Good for you..
I have real trouble knowing what he's on about--perhaps you can translate for me.
What do Dostum and Palpatine have to do with Christianity?
Well Dostum was a follower of Islam and Palpatine was Darth Sidious, evil lord of the Sith--so I suppose to a christian they both represent 'the dark side of the force'
That is incorrect.. Dostum is a communist and Atheist.. he was born muslim but is not...He was an officer with the Soviets and turned on them during the war... He is a staunch atheist and promotes womens rights in his territory.... I read all about him.
Apologises…I’ve done some research--you are correct it this matter. I was having a bit of fun--but should have made an effort to be better informed.