At least that man apologized, but the people there should really respect your preferences and not have any weird ideas about what that could make you better.
Welcome to AFF, Mysticaria
At least the doctor admitted he did not know about Asperger's finally. I think in some places it is just easier for them to deal with people who they can just medicate and get rid of.
I guess you just have to make some obtainable goals for yourself and a plan on how to get to them: get somewhere to live and a job or a disability pension -- whichever you can handle. Being social and looking people in the eye really should not have to be the top goal of someone with asperger's.
Just have to say that even if finding a good psychiatrist goes wrong one time, it doesn't mean that you should stop trying. They're often very different.
Interesting. I think that you had a rough ride. I have heard of other experiences like my friend who is an aspie being really badly treated at school and taking Ritalin when it was just not appropriate.
I find that yoga helps because one cannot deny the benefits of it. Something really pragmatic and tangible can lift you out of depression.
Every tried yoga?
I decided to mention that I thought I had AS and they both laughed at me and said that was ridiculous.
Yeah - disappointing - people can be so stupid
After a couple phone calls, he apologized and said "I didn't realize AS was like that, I haven't read anything on it besides the DSM-IV. I'm not experienced in that area."
some professional.
So, there's an example of a bad situation where someone happens to get a psychiatrist, nurse, and psychologist don't know anything beyond the bare stereotypes of autism. I don't understand how you can be in a mental health profession and be so blatantly ignorant!
Quite often the training is not wonderful - they become ground down in old ways of doing things and they don't keep up with current research.Life experience is a great teacher
If someone else is going through something similar, well, you're not alone! Just wait it out, and remember that the truth is on your side, and that you'll find someone competent who will listen eventually. (i'm still looking.)
Good advice! I agree! Thank you for sharing your experiences and finishing by offering hopeful advice. Good luck - you will eventually find someone.
Bureaucracy just does not mix well with any type of "care."
I tend to disagree (sorry) - a system that offered the kind of healthcare described in the initial post in this thread - needs a good bureaucratic overhaul to improve services, attitudes, structures and knowledge.
"Bureaucracy = bad" vs. "Bureaucracy = Can be alot better"
... or just both?
If you read history you'll find that poeple in general are often more stupid than you think, but then again sometimes surprisingly smarter.
a system that offered the kind of healthcare described in the initial post in this thread - needs a good bureaucratic overhaul to improve services, attitudes, structures and knowledge.
So few people are courageous enough to stand up for bureaucracy. This is why we all admire you, Lucie.
Oops, when I first read this, I thought you meant "stand up TO bureacracy" and then I realised it was "stand up FOR bureaucracy".
I'm very reluctant to approach strangers but if I have ever believed a bureaucratic decision was wrong, I have appealed it. They rely on most people being put off by all the form-filling and the fear of appealing.
It might be a different situation overseas, but in Australia, public servants fear "ministerials", where people complain to their local member of parliament (actually, their secretary) when they believe they have been unjustly treated by a public service department.
"It might be a different situation overseas, but in Australia, public servants fear "ministerials", where people complain to their local member of parliament (actually, their secretary) when they believe they have been unjustly treated by a public service department. "
Oh well that's because in Australia (amazing country, have family out there) the political/economic system actually works PROPERLY.
afaik ;p
I don't know about "properly" but the more I read about what goes on in other countries, the more I realise how lucky we are here.
What I mean is, if someone complains..it actually gets sorted out.
I'm afraid complaint power just doesn't work in the UK, not nowerdays
ah - so it was sarcasm - more fool me - I didn't recognise it.
What's the answer then Max - how do we solve the problem. Can you suggest how to improve the quality of the service offered by the mental system in this instance?
when people use sarcasm - I believe the wish to hurt - why do wish to hurt me Max?
I was even stupid enough to post a PM to say thankyou. Thanks for pointing out my mistake - I prefer to know where I stand - I don't like to be under any illusions.
Maybe bureaucracy isn't the right word - since often bureaucracy involves hierarchies,
Ah, NOW we agree. (no sarcasm.)
The problem with bureaucracies is that they always seem to see the answer as adding more bureaucrats, more layers of nonsense, more cost cutting of services to allow more $$$ going to the bureaucratic structure.
Actually "improving management systems and structures" is usually seen as a threat to bureaucrats. Typically their first reaction is "Wait! We have to protect our phony-baloney jobs!"
And so they sack and/or thoroughly discredit the people who had the temerity to make such a suggestion. 