09-22-2007, 11:47 AM
Ethel
09-23-2007, 12:30 AM
But they shouldn't have to, Garmonbozia - you should be able to send your kid to school reasonably sure they're not going to be tortured!
09-23-2007, 01:05 AM
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He is one semester short of receiving his master's in special education from St. Xavier University.
Correction.... He WAS one semester short of receiving his master's in special eduction...
He better not get it now.
09-23-2007, 01:48 AM
Ethel, you're absolutely right. They shouldn't have to keep an eye on the teacher. That's what should be, which unfortunately isn't the same thing as what is. If the teachers aren't torturing the students, the other students are. (Glad that I don't have any kids to worry about, and that cats don't have to go to school.)
I hope McCarthy never gets that Master's degree. He doesn't deserve the prestige. No, instead he needs some extra-slippery soap without the rope. (Get him, Bubba!)
I hope McCarthy never gets that Master's degree. He doesn't deserve the prestige. No, instead he needs some extra-slippery soap without the rope. (Get him, Bubba!)
rossco
09-23-2007, 02:11 AM
Nice Garmonbozia! LOL.
I don't like bullies and people who use their power over others.
There is no more satisfying or pathetic sight than that of a bully who's "righteous" bullying ways have backfired on them.
I have seen many of these instances. The moment it dawns on them that they have been called out, that they have no answer to opposition, they have no justification the can offer to reasonably explain their actions, and no reason they can offer not to be retaliated against, exposed or punished.
It's the look on their face. Bunny in the headlights.
I don't like bullies and people who use their power over others.
There is no more satisfying or pathetic sight than that of a bully who's "righteous" bullying ways have backfired on them.
I have seen many of these instances. The moment it dawns on them that they have been called out, that they have no answer to opposition, they have no justification the can offer to reasonably explain their actions, and no reason they can offer not to be retaliated against, exposed or punished.
It's the look on their face. Bunny in the headlights.
09-23-2007, 03:54 AM
I, like everyone else, loath these people. Why was he not monitored more closely? Why did the assistants not step in after the first incident? Or had he been abusing the students for a long time but in a less obvious way?
What I find really worrying is the probability that there are more of him out there.
What I find really worrying is the probability that there are more of him out there.
09-24-2007, 03:01 AM
Reading that, I feel like a little girl again, cowering in the corner, big angry stepdad stomping towards me.
And I'm an Aspie--I was able to tell people what was happening to me! Granted, nobody ever did anything, but at least I had the power to talk about it... A nonverbal kid is just the perfect victim; he can't snitch on you.
If there's one thing that will get me into that dangerous, angry-calm state in which I believe I am capable of anything up to and including killing another human being... it is the abuse of the innocent.
I hope that man gets put in prison for a good long time. And I hope he never even sees, much less touches another child again.
And I'm an Aspie--I was able to tell people what was happening to me! Granted, nobody ever did anything, but at least I had the power to talk about it... A nonverbal kid is just the perfect victim; he can't snitch on you.
If there's one thing that will get me into that dangerous, angry-calm state in which I believe I am capable of anything up to and including killing another human being... it is the abuse of the innocent.
I hope that man gets put in prison for a good long time. And I hope he never even sees, much less touches another child again.
hrick
09-24-2007, 11:57 AM
Must have been really bad for the aides to have turned him in. We just had a special ed teacher duct taping kids to chairs among other things here and none of the other staff said a word. I think it may have been a parent that eventually saw and reported it to the DA, as I don't think the District was that concerned about it. Thought the parents were making much ado about "nothing". Unbelieveable. So glad we opted out of the local school system. Mom
09-24-2007, 01:48 PM
having teachers throw stuff at us and shoving us just was normal when I was a kid -- special education student or not. They used the strap.
Making a kid jump on a trampoline for 30 minutes wearing a weighted vest -- was there a timer or something? So if someone was watching then why didn't they stop it or did this teacher admit to it.
What are people supposed to do with kids who will run out into the street? They can't tie them up or lock them inside so they are supposed to drug the kids? I would rather they get wacked every once in a while than be drugged up.
Call me cruel but after growing up I know life isn't fair. This is not exactly torture but somehow these kids need to learn some self control.
Making a kid jump on a trampoline for 30 minutes wearing a weighted vest -- was there a timer or something? So if someone was watching then why didn't they stop it or did this teacher admit to it.
What are people supposed to do with kids who will run out into the street? They can't tie them up or lock them inside so they are supposed to drug the kids? I would rather they get wacked every once in a while than be drugged up.
Call me cruel but after growing up I know life isn't fair. This is not exactly torture but somehow these kids need to learn some self control.
09-25-2007, 01:05 AM
Until you can teach them not to run into the street:
Close doors; use fences; use a kid leash or a dog with a kid leash attached (autism service dogs learn to stop a kid who is tied to their leash from running off); just grab them and stop them.
Using physical punishment doesn't help kids learn self control... there are better ways to do it.
Close doors; use fences; use a kid leash or a dog with a kid leash attached (autism service dogs learn to stop a kid who is tied to their leash from running off); just grab them and stop them.
Using physical punishment doesn't help kids learn self control... there are better ways to do it.
09-25-2007, 01:09 AM
Callista Wrote:
Until you can teach them not to run into the street:
Close doors; use fences; use a kid leash or a dog with a kid leash attached (autism service dogs learn to stop a kid who is tied to their leash from running off); just grab them and stop them.
Using physical punishment doesn't help kids learn self control... there are better ways to do it.
Close doors; use fences; use a kid leash or a dog with a kid leash attached (autism service dogs learn to stop a kid who is tied to their leash from running off); just grab them and stop them.
Using physical punishment doesn't help kids learn self control... there are better ways to do it.
Well said Callista. I sometimes got rude comments from passers-by for keeping my eldest in reins until he was five. But how else could I keep him safe? I couldn't run after him with two smaller kids in tow.
09-25-2007, 03:09 AM
woman from mars Wrote:
I also always pulled the pram behind me onto the road ( not push it into the traffic hoping that a driver would stop ), then if a lunatic driver was to appear...I would be hit first.
I used to do that too, I still cannot believe the younger generation who push their prams out between parked cars right into the road without looking! It drives meto despair.
09-25-2007, 09:41 AM
So do those people who smoke all over babies in prams and strollers. Don't they realise how much harm they are doing? Then they're the first people to wonder how their kids get asthma and constant coughs and colds.
09-25-2007, 12:35 PM
I wonder if schools are allowed to use hidden cameras to monitor teachers and students. Most people use them for their nannies or elder care. They just are not supposed to be in washrooms or change rooms.
09-25-2007, 12:40 PM
Too expensive, M. The occasional court case is cheaper than the installation, maintenance and monitoring of what would be millions of cameras. And the law would probably have to be changed.
However, with the rise in camera phones perhaps the day is not too far away that students and assistants will be able to provide proof to back up claims of abuse.
However, with the rise in camera phones perhaps the day is not too far away that students and assistants will be able to provide proof to back up claims of abuse.
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