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Not only the USA & to ? NT's also, I heard about this the other day.
PLEASE DO NOT LAUGH ( but when I heard it on the news I DID Big GrinBig GrinBig GrinBig Grin )

Boy, 12, charged with assault after throwing cocktail sausage

Quote:
Boy, 12, charged with assault after throwing cocktail sausage in 'Just William' prank
How the law made a meal out of a boy's childish prank

By JAYA NARAIN - More by this author » Last updated at 21:50pm on 22nd August 2007
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Food for thought: The boy of 12 contemplates all the stress caused by throwing a sausage


A 12-year-old boy has been brought before the courts for throwing a cocktail sausage at a neighbour
Just William

District Judge Tim Devas compared the incident to a story from boys' adventure book Just William.
Sausage

The case has been brought before Manchester City Magistrate's Court
Most popular stories

    
It is the sort of mischievous jape which wouldn't have seemed out of place in a Just William novel.

When a 12-year-old boy apparently got into an argument with an elderly neighbour, the youngster retaliated by throwing a cocktail sausage, which hit the pensioner on the shoulder.

Unfortunately, any comparisons with Richmal Crompton's stories of harmless schoolboy misbehaviour end there.

Instead of simply giving him a severe ticking-off, two police officers arrested the terrified boy, put him in the back of a squad car and locked him up in a cell.

He was then hauled before a court and charged with common assault.

A judge criticised police and lawyers yesterday for bringing the case, which has already cost thousands of pounds in taxpayers' money.

District Judge Tim Devas told the youth court where the boy appeared: "I was brought up in the era of Just William. You may not remember it but this incident sounds similar.

"Clearly there are certain things that should be done with a 12-year- old and you shouldn't be bringing them into the court system unless it's absolutely necessary.

"If he has done what was suggested it is very bad behaviour.

"But is it in the public interest to prosecute a 12-year-old boy who threw a sausage?"

He has urged the Crown Prosecution Service to reconsider whether to prosecute.

The alleged incident is said to have taken place on August 11 in Wythenshawe, Manchester, when Michael Deegan, 74, was walking home from a pub.

He claims that after a disagreement the boy threw the cocktail sausage, which hit him on the shoulder.

The boy, who cannot be identified for legal reasons and pleaded not guilty, said: "It was only a small sausage from a picnic we'd been having.

"I shouldn't have done it but he was going on at me like he usually does so I just threw it."

His mother described the case as a 'ridiculous waste of time and money'. She said: "He was worried sick that he was going to be sent to prison.

"He was absolutely terrified.

"I am furious at the way the police over-reacted in the first place and was shocked when he was charged with assault and given a court date.

"My son has learning difficulties and attends a special needs school, so explaining this to him was not easy.

"He was panicking quite badly and I had to reassure him that he wouldn't go to jail."

Oliver Gardner, defending, said: "It's crazy - they are criminalising children.

"Where is the discretion or logic on the police's behalf when they charge a 12-year-old with assault with a cocktail sausage?

"It beggars belief that they have put this boy through the trauma of the criminal justice system, locking him up at the police station and then hauling him before the court."

Dianne Oliver, prosecuting, said she would take the case to her superiors who would review the charge.

A spokesman for the CPS said police charged the boy 'without reference' to the CPS.

The CPS lawyer dealing with the case in court asked for it to be adjourned so the matter could be reviewed, he added.

In a case last year, Judge Jonathan Finestein criticised a decision to prosecute a boy of ten for calling his schoolfriend racist names in the playground.

He called the move 'political correctness gone mad'.

The case was later dropped.

A Greater Manchester Police spokesman said the boy was charged because of three earlier reprimands over his behaviour and that the decision to do so was 'completely in line with standard procedure'.

Alison Wrote:
What a pity the same doesn't apply to schoolyard bullies, though.  If they knew they'd be accountable for their actions, they might think twice.  There was an item today in one of our current affairs news stories about a boy who'd been bullied so badly in primary school that he was physically scarred for life, and he'd attempted suicide.  Now, he is about to start high school and guess what?  The boy who bullied him is in the same school YET AGAIN.  
Alison

I totally agree & I can't see the difference  (I mean between attacking an older person & another child), for goodness sake a child throws a tiny sausage at an older person & is prosecuted, but can literally torture another child to death  & &*@)£"(& is done about it.

Ah, "vexatious litigation" only applies to civil litigation, the proceding in this case is criminal charges.

AgentPalpatine Wrote:
Ah, "vexatious litigation" only applies to civil litigation, the proceding in this case is criminal charges.

sorry, that post was an accident.

I meant to quote:-

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QUOTATION: “If the law supposes that,” said Mr. Bumble,… “the law is a ***—a idiot. If that’s the eye of the law, the law is a bachelor; and the worst I wish the law is that his eye may be opened by experience—by experience.”

earthmonkey Wrote:
I got this in my mail:

Ari Ne'eman Wrote:
Hello everyone,

As some of you have heard by now, the charges against Nathan Darnell, a six-year old autistic student in Kentucky, have been dropped. I'd like to thank everyone who wrote and called to the Bracken County School system in order to see this happen. Our call to action reached across the world, with people calling and e-mailing from as far away as Europe as well as throughout the United States. We should all be very proud of our work here. As a reminder, if any of you are faced with or hear about another incident requiring group advocacy, please feel free to e-mail me at aneeman@autisticadv ocacy.org or the Autistic Self Advocacy Network at info@autisticadvoca cy.org. By standing together, our community is strengthened.

Regards,
Ari Ne'eman
The Autistic Self Advocacy Network, President
http://www.autisticadvocacy. org
info@autisticadvocacy.org


Huzzah!

earthmonkey Wrote:
I got this in my mail:

Ari Ne'eman Wrote:
Hello everyone,

As some of you have heard by now, the charges against Nathan Darnell, a six-year old autistic student in Kentucky, have been dropped. I'd like to thank everyone who wrote and called to the Bracken County School system in order to see this happen. Our call to action reached across the world, with people calling and e-mailing from as far away as Europe as well as throughout the United States. We should all be very proud of our work here. As a reminder, if any of you are faced with or hear about another incident requiring group advocacy, please feel free to e-mail me at aneeman@autisticadv ocacy.org or the Autistic Self Advocacy Network at info@autisticadvoca cy.org. By standing together, our community is strengthened.

Regards,
Ari Ne'eman
The Autistic Self Advocacy Network, President
http://www.autisticadvocacy. org
info@autisticadvocacy.org


Great stuff.Big GrinBig GrinBig GrinBig GrinBig GrinBig GrinBig Grin

Alison Wrote:
What a pity it had to reach such ridiculous proportions before being squashed.  I just hope that teacher is not still going to be in contact with the child.  She obviously hasn't got a clue.
Alison


*cracks knuckles*

angry letter brigade time?

I agree. *applause*
Alison well done I hope that you can go on to teach more of your colleagues in appropriate management techniques.

woman from mars Wrote:
Not only the USA & to ? NT's also, I heard about this the other day.
PLEASE DO NOT LAUGH ( but when I heard it on the news I DID Big GrinBig GrinBig GrinBig Grin )

Boy, 12, charged with assault after throwing cocktail sausage

Quote:
Boy, 12, charged with assault after throwing cocktail sausage in 'Just William' prank
How the law made a meal out of a boy's childish prank

By JAYA NARAIN - More by this author » Last updated at 21:50pm on 22nd August 2007
boy

Food for thought: The boy of 12 contemplates all the stress caused by throwing a sausage


A 12-year-old boy has been brought before the courts for throwing a cocktail sausage at a neighbour
Just William

District Judge Tim Devas compared the incident to a story from boys' adventure book Just William.
Sausage

The case has been brought before Manchester City Magistrate's Court
Most popular stories

    
It is the sort of mischievous jape which wouldn't have seemed out of place in a Just William novel.

When a 12-year-old boy apparently got into an argument with an elderly neighbour, the youngster retaliated by throwing a cocktail sausage, which hit the pensioner on the shoulder.

Unfortunately, any comparisons with Richmal Crompton's stories of harmless schoolboy misbehaviour end there.

Instead of simply giving him a severe ticking-off, two police officers arrested the terrified boy, put him in the back of a squad car and locked him up in a cell.

He was then hauled before a court and charged with common assault.

A judge criticised police and lawyers yesterday for bringing the case, which has already cost thousands of pounds in taxpayers' money.

District Judge Tim Devas told the youth court where the boy appeared: "I was brought up in the era of Just William. You may not remember it but this incident sounds similar.

"Clearly there are certain things that should be done with a 12-year- old and you shouldn't be bringing them into the court system unless it's absolutely necessary.

"If he has done what was suggested it is very bad behaviour.

"But is it in the public interest to prosecute a 12-year-old boy who threw a sausage?"

He has urged the Crown Prosecution Service to reconsider whether to prosecute.

The alleged incident is said to have taken place on August 11 in Wythenshawe, Manchester, when Michael Deegan, 74, was walking home from a pub.

He claims that after a disagreement the boy threw the cocktail sausage, which hit him on the shoulder.

The boy, who cannot be identified for legal reasons and pleaded not guilty, said: "It was only a small sausage from a picnic we'd been having.

"I shouldn't have done it but he was going on at me like he usually does so I just threw it."

His mother described the case as a 'ridiculous waste of time and money'. She said: "He was worried sick that he was going to be sent to prison.

"He was absolutely terrified.

"I am furious at the way the police over-reacted in the first place and was shocked when he was charged with assault and given a court date.

"My son has learning difficulties and attends a special needs school, so explaining this to him was not easy.

"He was panicking quite badly and I had to reassure him that he wouldn't go to jail."

Oliver Gardner, defending, said: "It's crazy - they are criminalising children.

"Where is the discretion or logic on the police's behalf when they charge a 12-year-old with assault with a cocktail sausage?

"It beggars belief that they have put this boy through the trauma of the criminal justice system, locking him up at the police station and then hauling him before the court."

Dianne Oliver, prosecuting, said she would take the case to her superiors who would review the charge.

A spokesman for the CPS said police charged the boy 'without reference' to the CPS.

The CPS lawyer dealing with the case in court asked for it to be adjourned so the matter could be reviewed, he added.

In a case last year, Judge Jonathan Finestein criticised a decision to prosecute a boy of ten for calling his schoolfriend racist names in the playground.

He called the move 'political correctness gone mad'.

The case was later dropped.

A Greater Manchester Police spokesman said the boy was charged because of three earlier reprimands over his behaviour and that the decision to do so was 'completely in line with standard procedure'.


it's a *** cocktail sausage for gods sake! (excuse my language)
i think police forces have some kind of prejudices against us as for the charge against the six yr old that teacher needs a new job perhaps working with dangerous chemicals Tongue

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