Aspies For Freedom

SoulSick, what on earth does the clip have to do with being NT? That makes exactly as much sense as someone equating autistics with Cho Seung-Hui.

Wouldn't it sound stupid for someone to say "your baseless hate mongering 'makes all the good Autites look bad.'"? They would be right about your post being baseless hate-mongering, but it has nothing to do with other Auties.

I enjoy the workings of government and social justice causes as well as the philosophy of freedom America is based upon.  What gets me frustrated is the games people play surrounding these very important issues. I feel so angry sometimes I want to turn over the money changing tables and yell for all the posers to get out - they don't really care about this country, they just want to make money and keep the real people who are trying to do good out of the game.

You were talking about politics on AFF?  I guess that shows how out of the loop I am... I didn't know there were any. I thought we were just a bunch of individuals... are there really 'sides' here??  I see people fighting, but I don't really see any taking of sides.

The only thing that makes me interested in AFF politics is the fact that I've completely missed something that is obvious to so many others; even those who say they are apathetic to it!!!

Maybe it's because I can't get in the chatroom and everyone talks about it in there?

Okay, *phew* glad I wasn't the only one. *L*

I teach government, and I hear from my students that they hate politics and it's boring and their parents hate politics and their parents think it's boring and blah blah blah...

but if you think the current state of affairs and the future of people on the spectrum is not 99% political, you're fooling yourself.

From what I'm reading in this thread nobody referred to the future of people on the spectrum anymore than they did the politics on AFF.

But you have a good point none-the-less.  Sadly, if this is true, then if autistics rely on themselves to interact with this political minefield, they will be doomed to failure, because it's just not a game they understand how to play or have any interest in playing.

A banding together and working under the radar could work on some level - not everyone needs to be DX to get help and Aspies and autistics can take care of each other and help parents who are open to non-cure tactics.  

But if something is going to happen in the area of civil rights from a public stand point, it will likely have to be NT people who are good at the game and are willing to fight politically or Aspies who are willing to tax themselves to learn and play.

What you are describing is politics at its worst -- and there is no end to examples. But politics is not merely a factionalist game played by two equally corrupt and power-hungry packs of villains. There are many critical issues that exist outside of the realm of raw power, and which motivate many people -- and many politicians -- to political action, even when it does not provide some power advantage. I believe you can think of enough examples.

I could be wrong, but I this post seems like a way off pigeonhole pronouncement. I don't see how anyone here can understand the complexity of anyone else's problem to be able to pronounce to them what the root of it is.  

I too have been guilty of retaining assumptions based on early interactions - but Batman has come a long way and while I don't know for sure, I honestly don't see 'victimization' in Batman.  

Some of his earlier posts seem more like frustration of not knowing what was going on... but he's not been doing that for a while.

I know this is true, it just seems so overwhelming when there aren't leaders I feel like I can believe in anymore.

Many of the things that I think are important aren't even being talked about, and the things that are being talked about that I care about, I don't believe a word either side says about it.  And even if they do say they will do something, most of the time they don't. It's very discouraging.

I do agree that there are some people who want to do the right thing, but they are mostly on the local levels.

Career politicians in the big offices spend so much time trying to figure out how to make their opponents look like fools or villains that it's no wonder they have no time to figure out practical, intelligent and compassionate ways to solve the countries problems.

And soooo much of this is due to the nightmarish nature of The Endless Campaign for election, re-election, re-re-election and the obscene amounts of money it takes to wage a campaign. Who can supply that much money? Only filthy corporatist interests and their lobbyists who donate money in return for political influence.

That's also where the corrupting power is primarily concentrated, AgentPalpatine, and it flows in toxic rivers down to the rest of us.

Worse than corporate control of the government and the corporations using The Bushies to plunder the US Treasury and syphon the money of the American taxpayers into the private coffers of corporatists who hae no regard for the welfare of America or its people?

I don't think so.

How would lack of corporate influence lead to increased influence of corporate media? There's no logical connection there.

And the relatively minor cost of campaign financing would be a tiny fraction of what the government spends on earmarks for its corporate masters -- much less the expense of an illegal corporate war-for-profit in Iraq.

Nameless? Oh, I'm terrible at guessing games. Can you give another hint? I've tried and tried, but I just can't guesswho you mean...

And is "believes uneducated and disabled people are less worthy of respect" an accurate description of what you think?

I don't know what that means, "I could start."

I'm asking a question. You said she was talking about you. Was she? If not, why would you say she is? And if she is, then I'm asking what you think.

You post mostly in cryptic, contrary one-liners, so I've formed no particular sense of what you actually think or believe.

Don't worry about this Chris. I've seen no indication that your interests would be classifiable as "educated."

To imagine that you are so terribly "educated" that it somehow over-rides the intrinsic value of all human beings is to vastly over-estimate a second rate degree from a fifth rate college.