Aspies For Freedom

I agree with Ethel. Besides, we are all genetic 'mongrels' with NT and ND relatives - why would we want to fight with our own sibling for example? (Err.....actually that was probably a bad example! )

well, i gotta go with majority and say peace, i have at times wanted to hate people, but i just dont have the heart for it, i simply like peace and happiness. besides, i'll not lower my self to their level.

I do have respect for the people I meet in daily life, which is ofcourse mostly NTs.

Peace and mutual respect, makes for good Business :]

I would like to coexist, but NTs need to realise that they need to make an effort too. Often, in therapy and social skills groups etc, the emphasis is placed on aspies learning NT social skills and conventions - where as there should also be emphasis on NTs learning about aspies and our ways of communicating.
Currently things are too one-sided.
I think NTs should me made to do as much learning as aspies - and then we can coexist as we will understand each other better and also one particular group is less likely to think they are 'right' and everyone else is 'wrong'.

The new member Spectrum_child had a funny post lately.

-War upon the boring, uninteresting normies!!

LOL

I want people to open their eyes and see the possibility of that people who are currently recieving labels with the word "syndrome" at the end of the tail can be very successfull if given the right opportunities.

Agree with the others that hating people doesn't accomplish anything, even when they really are doing something wrong.

The huge majority of NT's want to do the right thing vis a vis Autism, but they have no idea what 'the right thing" is.

They believe in "The Cure" because that's what they've always heard and that's what the see on Oprah. The Cure fits the existing model in their heads that Differences = Deficits and that we, as good people,  must "fix" what's "broken."

The only way for this to change is through education, PR and re-framing what Autism means and who Autistics are.

On the other hand, individual bitterness and anger in regards to the way you've been treated is entirely understandable and valid. Resentment toward the systemic advantage given to NT's is valid.

But to just go around hating everybody who is NT just adds to your own misery.

I wondered how to react when I saw a possible new friend aswell as aspie chatting with the guy who bullied me through primary.

I might prefer to avoid this guy, but I think I will just pretend that everything is fine if I ever have to do groupwork with him. As long as he don't prove that he hasn't changed. I know very little of how he has changed.

I agree when we're talking about a genetically defined group or a group defined by immutable (innate, unchangeable)  characteristics (race, gender, neurostatus, sexual orientation,  national origin...)

But if someone chooses to identify with a group based on the group's values, beliefs or practices, then I may respond to them on the basis of those values.

In short, if someone is Indian, it makes no sense to hate him for being Indian. But if someone chooses to join the KKK, I will treat them like a Klansman.

GuessWho, please don't turn this into another sermon. The thread is not about your Christian experiences. If you read "KKK" and see "Christian" that's your problem -- and a very revealing one.

Okay, whatever. This is like dumping a paper shredder and just reading whatever comes out.

I think:

• Max does not think all christians are racists and discriminating or in any way a threat.

• GuessWho is not intending to be racist or discriminating.

*wonders if there is still any doubt*

I'm for peace and education.

Chances are he doesn't remember or doesn't think what he did was all that bad... or possibly even thinks it was justified.   Most bullies have an inflated ego of how great they are and don't imagine even their worst bullying is more than teasing and if the person they bullied was hurt, they're too sensitive or it served them right.

Maybe he grew up and doesn't bully anymore, maybe he's just lying in wait for another opportunity to present itself - hard to tell.

I think you're right in trying to avoid him when possible and pretending things are fine if you're forced to interact.  Holding something against him isn't useful to you at all and it'll just make him feel defensive if he senses it.

I would let it go as far as being mad at him, but don't trust him until he's owned up to what he did and apologizes... which is likely never to happen unless you guys become really close friends and he actually cares about your feelings and respects you.