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These three hate crimes happened in the college district where my boyfriend Erich teachers... hate crimes against deaf people, a black family, and an Islamic mosque. How safe is a gay Aspie?

Very disturbing...

ATTACK ON DEAF PARTYGOERS BELIEVED TO BE HATE CRIME
09/10/07 4:25 PDT

ANTIOCH (BCN)

Antioch police believe that an assault on a group of deaf people attending a party early Sunday morning was a hate crime, Antioch police Lt. Pat Welch said today.

The party was being held in a garage at 3420 Longview Road. At about 1 a.m., two Antioch teens, 18-year-old Phillip Hale and a 17-year-old juvenile, walked by and saw the group signing to each other, Welch said.

The two teens started mimicking and taunting the deaf people until one of them told them to leave.

The pair left, but reportedly returned later with a large wooden stick, a concrete brick and a garden hoe and attacked one of the people at the party, police reported.

The victim, a 23-year-old deaf man, received minor injuries from being struck on the head with at least one of the weapons and possibly a rock that Hale picked up during the struggle, Welch said.

Several other partygoers went to help their friend and the group was able to fight the two teens off, Welch said.

When police arrived, they found "substantial amounts of blood" in front of two homes. They contacted the group of deaf people inside the garage and found the victim.

According to Welch, the majority of the blood appears to have come from Hale, whose head was cut during the fight.

Welch said that while the juvenile did participate in the attack, he was not injured and it didn't appear that he was actually able to hit anyone before the group ran the pair off.

Police caught up to the suspects several blocks away. Hale was taken to a nearby hospital before being booked into county jail in Martinez. The juvenile was booked into juvenile hall, also in Martinez.

Welch said that in order to present the district attorney's office with evidence of a hate crime, investigators had to prove that the victim was attacked because he was deaf.

"In cases like this we usually err on the side of caution and let the district attorney decide," Welch said.

The district attorney's office has not yet filed charges against Hale and information about the juvenile was not available.

The incident is either the second or third alleged hate crime in eastern Contra Costa County in the past two months.

On Aug. 12, also in Antioch, somebody set fire to the Islamic Center of the East Bay, located at 311 W. 18th St.

Four separate fires were set inside the mosque and fire investigators quickly determined that they were started intentionally, Contra Costa County Fire Protection District spokeswoman Emily Hopkins said.

Although police didn't find any evidence at the burned mosque to indicate that a hate crime had occurred, local Muslim leaders said they felt targeted.

"We do see it as a violent act...It's an act that terrorizes the community," Safaa Ibrahim, director of the Bay Area chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations said in the days following the fire.

The Muslim community had been targeted before with repeated harassment, vandalism and one incident in which somebody shot up the front walls and windows of the mosque with a pellet gun, Ibrahim said.

Welch, however, said that usually with hate crimes, suspects leave behind graffiti or a note to let people know why they committed a particular crime, evidence that wasn't present in the mosque arson fire.

Police are continuing to pursue active leads in the case, Welch said, and have been looking into all possible motivations for the fire.

The second hate crime occurred in Brentwood on Aug. 22 when somebody broke into a house in the 500 block of Douglas Drive, the home of a black family.

The house was extensively vandalized and racially offensive language was spray-painted on the walls inside the home, Brentwood police Lt. Tom Hansen said.

The family's sport utility vehicle was stolen during the incident and later found burned in Oakland, Hansen said.

Brentwood police, along with the FBI and the Contra Costa County District Attorney's office, were investigating the incident as a hate crime.

It still amazes me that people would want to do terrible things like this.

Hate crimes happen every-day though on a MUCH MORE superficial and low key basis --- simply rejecting people from your life or discriminating who you keep around.

Full on Hate crimes, is a magnification of every day  exclusion or irritating traits or feelings of repugnance.... turned up to maximum volume where people feel they must lash out and eliminate the "inferiors" or whatever is causing their animal ego to go apeshit.

We wouldn't be as evolved if it wasn't for hate, sorry to say it.  If we look at evolution over thousands of years, there was lots of killing and outright genocide at what our ancestors thought were  inferior races.

Hell slavery was only abolished 100-200 years ago, and apartheid barely 60 or so years ago.

60, that long ago?

... thought it was more like 20.

I was just looking at the dates from major civil rights campaigns roughly 60 years ago, it was the 1920's to 1950-60's roughly, by the 60's blacks had significant rights, Martin luther died in late 60's.

So roughly ~40-50 years ago

Oh, I was thinking about South Africa.

[quote=Bogie]
"They want to shock. Think of it as a sort of outward stimming. But they do it in groupthink form "  [quote]

Is this is stimming for some Nt's? Then why would parents prefer this type of stimming rather than the autistic kind.  I would rather have a kid who rocks and flaps than one who goes out and assaults people when they get to teenhood.

Okay, so SoulSick gives a rare Thumbs Up to genocide...

Whatever.

And yes, Erk -- SA ended apartheid in, I think, 1991.

I think they do this because they don't release their emotions in harmless ways, so it bottles up, backs into some hatred, and explodes on other people.

When Autistic people stim while they're stressed or angry, they are letting the emotion leave their bodies, which is why they're usually docile.

NT's usually don't get the urge to stim, however. They don't do anything to let out their anger. So this anger bottles up inside them until it just has to go out. By this time they are so angry on the inside that they forget their moral values completely.

So yeah, I guess this is like a harmful form of stimming.

I wasn't aware "Shangri-La" was a fascist police state... James Hilton would probably appreciate it if you used a different name for your fantasy land.

To say "They don't do anything to let out their anger" makes me wonder how you've grown up on this planet without seeing the thousand ways people let out their anger besides stimming and hate crimes.

Saying that hate-crimes are caused by NT's not stimming is just as crazy as the CHO=AUTISM=DEATH idiots.

You're inferring way too much their buddy, but if you believe in evolution there's no getting around quality selective breeding and assortive mating.  Go take some ancient history classes.  Stop thinking that the modern world and modern thinking is all that matters, if you were born millions of years ago you'd have to make tough choices, go research some insane tribal behaviour, or go read the old testament.  People used to sacrifice children to non-existent gods to earn their favor, so yeah I'm glad the good people killed those people.  Just like you would if they lived next door to you before big governments, law enforcement, etc.  You have to contain the spread of people infected with crazyness.

I didn't say homophobe, I said fascist. Who said anything about gay anything? Why are you spewing about gay issues again?

... that lasted about 24 hours...

Well segregation, equal rights, etc, they are all related really, I went to a black history site and they had that stuff all on their, so yeah it blurs together.

No! we'll cope quite well with just the thread we already have.

I just realised something about Marshlands in general though. They tend to give off noxious gases due to all the decaying vegetation. Mind you, in the night time, this can give rise to pretty blue lights so it isn't all bad.