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SoccerFreak248 has a good point.. College is much better. Since you pay for and select your classes in college.. There you have a system protecting your purchase.

I had a lot of trouble dodging those special homeroom classes too.. But with my mom's help I managed to for many years. My first special homeroom was in middleschool; it replaced art, a lax subject about expression, with a nun/teacher/guardian type person who presumed I was an idiot. The social implication of the special homeroom was pretty bad. In my Senior year of highschool I had another special homeroom; Although it was called the retard class, the teacher quite literally said "I see your situation, well then, do whatever you want [such as leave the classroom] but be sure to check in with me at the beginning and end of each class so I don't get into trouble". Explained in this light, many peers were envied my situation. This was good closure to that problem.

At my current college I have had bouts with the Office of Disability Services, for a hearing problem, but this system is built on request-based help so at the worst I just don't get help. The idea of my university administration removing me from a class because I am different is.... A federal offense. In this way, memories of highschool faculty saying "we are prepaing you for college" is lead in my heart.
The public education is not run by retards. It's run by snooty old ladies/guys who believe everyone must turn into brainless zombies who spend their lives walking around worshiping cruel deity known as normalcy so as not to disturb the fragile balance of mediocrity that allows the snooty ladies to keep their jobs, then go around saying it's for everyone's own good. I find the former group much more admirable than the latter.

I know a freshman girl who reads at an eighth-grade level. She got put in a special ed reading class. I know freshman who read at a level lower than eighth-grade, but they take English CP. The difference? My friend stutters.

Anyway, that sounds tough, Meiloyn. I've gotten detentions for drawing in class, despite trying to explain to the teacher that I can pay *more* attention that way, even challenging him to do the unthinkable - calling my parents and trying to confirm that claim. I was so mad. It didn't help that I got the detention the same day my progress report came in and revealed that I was flunking P.E.
OHMYGOSH!!! I HELD THE PENCIL THE WRONG WAY TOO!! AND STILL DO!! *high five*

I learned to hold it right long enough for my teacher to give me donuts. Then  I went back to holding it my way again. xD

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The people who run schools want them to run smoothly. Anyone who doesn't fit is tossed in the wastebasket.


Couldn't have said it better myself.

SheWhoCan'tThinkOfAUsername Wrote:
OHMYGOSH!!! I HELD THE PENCIL THE WRONG WAY TOO!! AND STILL DO!! *high five*


*grins* Me too! Were you ever given those triangular rubber "grip" attachments that forced you to hold a pencil the right way? *shudders*

B.S.C. Wrote:
Why would they care how you hold the pencil as long as you can write well?


Who knows?

I think one of the unfortunate side effects of the "syllabus-based" education system is that they teach that there's only one "correct" way to do everything. I've always thought a "project" or goal oriented system would work much better.

For example, if you try to teach a group of children to memorize certain mathematical formulas, they're going to be bored. But if you teach them basic mathematic principles, then tell them to use these to, for example, build a catapult capable of hitting a target, they'll learn things very quickly...

If you like to walk on your toes, ballet could be a deluxe vocation for you...

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*grins* Me too! Were you ever given those triangular rubber "grip" attachments that forced you to hold a pencil the right way? *shudders*  


Auurgh, those were annoying! It felt good to chew them, though...

You are about my daughter's age, but as she doesn't get on Aspie chatrooms yet, I'll answer.

I'm sure her experiences were somewhat similar (being excluded, misunderstood), but because her psychological defenses are superior she either didn't notice a lot or ignored it as best as possible. Occasionally she will ask me questions about a certain teacher who was clueless, but not too often. Hope had an IEP from about 2nd grade on, but was misdiagnosed as ADHD (very common) for years, til finally dxed at 11 or so as AS.

I, therefore, have no bitterness about the aforementioned clueless adults. In fact I feel very grateful that she did have some very nice special education teachers and speech pathologists in elementary school. Middle school is the worst for Aspies I think unless the high school you go to is particularly brutal and I have read some posts that would curl your hair in that regard....

So much more now is known about HFA that school professionals at least here in the states in urban areas at least do try harder to accommodate and understand Aspies. A "Bored of Education" stiff has promised me that she will implement a "Circle of Friends" program soon, but I am dubious.  I have, and am having acquaintances mostly e-mail her with "WHEN are we getting this program" to no avail. My family knows a famous author here in town, so maybe I should call him- he is revered here and might turn the tide, I don't know.

But I am pretty happy with the treatment Hope is getting now in 10th grade. She goes to a very average high school, but the people care and that makes all the difference. I tell people I think it is because I live in the southereastern US and while the Bible Belt's mentality does annoy me on occasion, these people have it drilled in them to be kind and for that I am deeply grateful.
I know you don't mean to insult retarted people but your attitude towards their abilities disturbs me and you are perpetuating discrimination against them all the same.  You need to remove that word from your vocabulary.  I have a child in that "retard" class and I can tell you that she is just as valuable as you are.

kattoo13 Wrote:
you sure use the word "retard" a lot....not very nice.


My thoughts exactly.  You are the epitomy of offensive and you need to come off your high horse.  Using that word hurts people and needs to be done away with.

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So, story begins with me before school. Only people I knew were my parents and my grandma. I must have met some cousins, but I didn't interact with them regularly.

Then, I suddenly meet kids in Kindergarten. My mom said that I did stuff like grabbing them and taking off their clothes. I was also raised with dolls, so that could be a possibility as to why I did that. People told me to stop, but I didn't get it. I DIDN'T communicate with people other than my parents prior to school.

So, I was quickly thrown from school to school from retard class to retard class. The first half of Kindergarten was at a catholic school. When religion class popped around, I always avoided it by going to the play corner instead. I never showed an interest in religion then. I remember I was once falsely accused of pouring apple juice into something in the play corner, but they didn't listen to me. Another kindergarten episode had some boys taking other kids' art and ripping it up. I yelled at them to stop. I'm not sure what happened.

The second half of Kindergarten threw me into a public elementary school, in a class for retarded kids. I also spent first and second grade there. I don't remember anything interesting that happened, though, other than I never liked my last name Bucko because people would call me "Butt-hole". So I made up a last name for myself: Logowalk. I abandoned it because adults didn't like the idea.

I was sent to a woman named Mrs. Turner for "speech", like I was incapable of speaking the English language. She would show me these pictures of animals and ask me what they were. I wish my current self was around to make sarcastic remarks then. If she had showed my current self a picture of a cat and told me what it was, I'd probably say, "No, it's an octopus."

In third grade, the school district sent me to a different school, known as Vance Village. This one was a rather stupid one with a stupid system that "simulated" adult life, which was why it was called "Village". Their stupid currency was called fins. My job was crafting, but the "employer" was a bitch and wouldn't pay me any money. I was once accused of running outside and went to a fake, jury-less trial, and had to pay a fine with the fins I didn't have. The first half of third grade took place in a retard class that send us each holiday to a senior home to entertain the old people. Ever since I first met my great grandmother, drooling pathetically in her wheelchair, senior homes depressed me. If I ever live to be 60, I'll avoid them as much as possible.

Then here's the big change. My mom had to fight with the entire school district to put me in an adequate class, because THEY WEREN'T TEACHING ME ANYTHING. How did I get a proper education before this? My mom would give me books for me to learn from. I used them faithfully. I also had encyclopaedias, so I was more knowledgeable in science than anyone else in my class, not meaning to brag. I'm pretty sure I was also one of the first to be enlightened to the way humans reproduced.

So I got moved to the class next door in April, which WASN'T for retards. I was treated like one, though. I still can't look at one of my friends without remembering how she would act like a really bossy, naggy teacher to me when I was in third grade. I could read and do math pretty well in the class, but I didn't get into the habit of doing morning work until fourth grade. My writings were pretty inadequate. I wrote tiny paragraphs and they were largely irrelevant to the topic. The retard third grade class was just beginning to learn to read and write sentences, while I had gotten past that already, being NOT a retard. I remember that their teacher had left in May or June, replaced by another teacher. They finally started doing multiplication. That class was a third/fourth grade mix.

By the fourth grade, I had been moved into a different school. And let's say that I was glad I was moved. Even in third grade, I thought that Vance and its system was stupid. Well, I finally got into a real class at last. Luckily, my outputted skills had developed rapidly. FINALLY, we got into real writing, so my writing stopped being retarded. I was in the highest math class, but I couldn't do addition like 8 + 3 at rapid speeds unlike others. (I had to figure this stuff out on my own with books, you have to remember that) Because I hated waiting for my brain to actually REASON its way to the answer instead of simply knowing it, I kept asking people. So I was kicked down to the lowest math class like I was dirt. I'm still not as fast at math as others today. 8 + (<10) still gets to me today.

Fifth grade was largely the same. Woohoo. Only interesting thing to note here is that this was the year I began to show interest in drawing. And this was because I found an art superstyle that interested me: anime. So I studied it and began my lifetime of art. No, you don't just start being good and keep being good, as it seems to occur to most non-art people. You start out bad and work your way up to good. The problem is, most people don't have or lose the motivation to work their way up, so they stay bad. Unfortunately, teachers and the aide were not impressed by my desire to develop talent in drawing and did not help motivate me. Instead they yelled at me to stop drawing pictures, even took a few and threw them away. I hate teachers like this. Really, I do. To come between an aspiring artist and his aspiration is a sin.

In fourth and fifth grade, I tried to fit myself into groups of friends. A certain group of girly girls acted nice to me, but they did things like form friendship clubs and shared secrets with each other. I was never included. So I decided, if you can't join them, beat them. I tried to start my own friendship club, but I never gained any members other than myself. I made one friend named Jelitza, but she moved. I don't know what's happening with her now. Maybe she became like my second grade best friend, moved in with the bitch crowd.

In sixth grade, I moved to Pulaski middle school. At least this move made sense, because I was graduating from elementary to middle school. There really is nothing special to say about sixth grade. I made a few nice friends. They're still nice to this day, though cross-cluster and cross-school separations stopped us from hanging with each other. I remember once having IEP papers dumped on my desk. I didn't know what they were so I didn't give them a second thought. In this grade the teachers were nicer and only the aide (yes, same aide) gave a shit about me drawing. In that year, I had my homeroom moved to a retard class in the cluster, and to this day I still have no idea why, because I thought I had that shit settled.

Seventh grade was the grade where everything got crazy, and my real personality exploded into existence. That year was horrid. Suddenly everybody stopped being nice, pleasant people and became rude, slang-speaking trash. Friends were scarce and hard to trust. (At least I was no longer in a retard homeroom) I remember when the aide caught me drawing in my drawing notebook and stole it from me. Some asshole kid took it before I could get it back. After that class, I found my artwork destroyed, scattered in shreds all over the hallway. You couldn't believe how angry I was. A security guard took the remains as evidence and never gave it back. If the aide hadn't taken my book, this would never would have happened, and I would still have it to look back at and see how much I had improved.

Near the end of the year, Gothic people made their appearance (as sarcastic and slightly sadistic phrases on the front of an antisocial girl's shirt) and I was introduced to the culture. I never made friends with the Goth crowd because I wasn't sure how to approach such people properly. About half of you already know how this was how I gained a crush on some fat Polish guy. All that crazy stuff aside, moving on to the eighth grade.

It's nice to know that the "Bored" of Education finally stopped thinking of me as a mindless retard. They must have AT LAST figured out that I'm an intelligent person because I became one of the most gifted students in the district. I moved to a school for gifted students, and retard classes were no more! (I still had the aide though.) 8th grade was the best school year I had so far. I had accumulated many friends and few enemies. My teachers loved my art, and I think my aide started to get a little lighter on the whole drawing in class thing. Trashy people were few and far between, so I didn't have to worry about curly haired, hoop-eared sluts shouting "YO" through my head at someone else. Since I had turned 14, I finally had an IEP meeting and I was invited. (about time) I had my retard IEP switched to a 504 plan, so now I was mostly regarded as normal student. Oh yeah. I got over Wojciech. Now, how shall I write Local Reality now that those two guys are stuck in it forever?

Now, I am currently in 9th grade, and I think they forgot the whole not a retard thing. Despite the fact I was in all Honours classes, I got put into a class for people who didn't have the intelligence to read properly, which confused me greatly. Luckily, I got myself moved out and into Spanish instead.

In short, the Bored of Education is run by retards.

No offence to people who are actually mentally retarded, 'k? It was the way they treated me. It was the whole situation.


ATM: I did not read this too carefully.  What I can say is that kids in school believe that the educational system is "fouled up."  We'll keep that language, for the sake of a public forum.  Join as a teacher, and you will KNOW that it is "fouled up."  To be honest, you will have a better chance of keeping your language clean as a student than as a teacher!

I hope the best for the author of this thread.

All the best.

And yes, I agree on the issue of derogatory language.  the main point of the post stands as being well spoken.

I believe in full mainstreaming, with assistance from trained professional teachers as Aides.  Hire one-on-one Aides and get these guys in to classes that will challenge them---in a way that builds their confidence.  Dismantle Special Ed. for all but those truly needing it.

My opinion.  There would actually be MORE jobs fro Special Ed. teachers who are qualified, not less.  They will be working with mainstream teachers.  More would be necessary to implement this task, but it could work.  

All the best.
"the main point of the post stands as being well spoken."

Sorry about my capitalization.  A few other grammar issues.

willjenn Wrote:

kattoo13 Wrote:
you sure use the word "retard" a lot....not very nice.


My thoughts exactly.  You are the epitomy of offensive and you need to come off your high horse.  Using that word hurts people and needs to be done away with.


While I agree completely, I do want to point out that you're talking to someone that hasn't logged on in over 6 months, and is unlikely to see the comment.

A True Monotheist Wrote:
And yes, I agree on the issue of derogatory language.  the main point of the post stands as being well spoken.

I believe in full mainstreaming, with assistance from trained professional teachers as Aides.  Hire one-on-one Aides and get these guys in to classes that will challenge them---in a way that builds their confidence.  Dismantle Special Ed. for all but those truly needing it.

My opinion.  There would actually be MORE jobs fro Special Ed. teachers who are qualified, not less.  They will be working with mainstream teachers.  More would be necessary to implement this task, but it could work.  

All the best.


Dismantle special ed?  Forget about those of us with learning difficulties..?

Sorry, I don't agree with this.  I don't believe full mainstreaming is the "best path."

ATM, perhaps you can keep in mind the opinions of those who struggled in school, as I'm not just talking to a brick wall, here.  My voice wants to be heard.

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