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Laceopia, run by me as absolute dictator. XD

Ian Wrote:
Corporate State run by a Corporation, run by me and a board of directors..
Government, Economy, Military and Intelligence services all various arms of the Corporation..

Hmm, otherwise society would be more or less the same.

Ian


Except that the name on the CEO's door would be Ian Caligula Moore rather than Richard Bruce Cheney, how would we notice a difference?

It's a shame people aren't reading this thread.

Personally, I find if you look past Generalissimo Marsh's narcissistic, hateful, ignorant, jealous, bitter Fascism, you'll find a delightful Fantasia-like pageant of mental-illness run wild.

I heartily recommend that the Generalissimo carry a copy of it with him at all times. That way, when women reject him, he can show it to them as a way of proving to them that they have, indeed, made a very good decision.
At the time of me writing this, this thread has been viewed 99x so I think some people are reading this... I'm just not sure how to comment...  To create an ideal nation for oneself is a very personal matter and creating an ideal nation for EVERYONE is impossible so there will always be someone who thinks what you've created is some form of terrible.

I am creating a nation in the novel I'm writing, but it's for fictional exploration and I would never think it to be ideal by any means.

The closest to ideal in my mind would be what the founders of the U.S. tried to accomplish, where people have civil rights and are free, but that has never been fully implemented and it seems there is a constant negotiation of rights and freedoms going on by people who don't care about the rights and freedoms of the others.

Maybe if people were honest about their agendas a lot more could be accomplished, but most of the time they aren't... or there is a presumption of dishonesty that breaks down trust and creates hostility, making the negotiation an all or nothing for both sides.  

So maybe I would prefer a nation where people are honest... but in the creation of this nation would that honesty have to be implemented as law, or would it have to be written into the genetic code of the people?

Then again, if people were forced to be honest all the time - it might make things worse...

Yup - still don't know how to answer.

But I wouldn't want to live in any of the nations others here have created, that's for sure. Cool

GuessWho Wrote:
I originally modeled it after my family as we were.  


Your family? Why? How could that be anything but a terrible idea?

GuessWho Wrote:
But not a country that terrorizes its own children.  Let's not even think about it.


Were you terrorized by your father, Chris? Is that why you're obsessed with a destructine, hateful, loveless god?

GuessWho Wrote:
Although it is a majority-Christian country blah blah blah


So of course it is a Militarized Christian Nationalist Theocracy. Dude you don't know the difference between the Gospels and The Turner Diaries.

GuessWho Wrote:
Marsh Northern Virginia has a slightly larger military force than its allies, a legacy of foreign persecution from the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s.  


What were these foreign persecutions?

Are you talking about something that actually happened, or is it just that you have a fantasy about "foreign persecution" to justify your own typically red-neck anti-Christian hatred of "foreigners"?

Gun control: if you want a military-type weapon, enlist and you will be provided one for the length of your enlistment.
Seriously, I don't want the police to be outgunned.  If anything like 44 Minutes ever happens again, I want the police to take him out, or at least there be a soldier nearby.

But I don't want any stolen tanks like the wildest police chases

Emmy Wrote:
Ive heard that the Jews now try to compencate for the executions by making the Jewish population grow as big as possible.


Oh, do tell us what other fascinating tidbits of idiocy the nazifreaks are putting out these days. Are the Jews still eating Christian babies?

" With all the controversy surrounding the announcement of the result of the NJPS 2000 - 2001 (hereinafter referred to as the NJPS 2000), the bottom line consensus from a non-denominational perspective is aptly captured by Michael Steinhardt:


“… All would agree that Jews in America are demographically endangered.  In addition to the usual suspects of assimilation and intermarriage, the survey revealed that Jews in America are getting married later and having fewer children - so few that we are experiencing negative population growth … When we remove the Orthodox from the statistical equation, the picture becomes that much bleaker for those American Jews who are most at risk.  In the wake of the study, one would have hoped to find a leadership galvanized to change.  The NJPS (2000), after all, revealed palpable evidence of a crisis.  But the community largely ignored the bad news, justifying its complacency by disputing the study’s methodology …” [6]

Mr. Steinhardt’s summation is correct.

Based upon the data and the various population studies that are now available, it appears that an extraordinary disintegration of the American Jewish community is in process. There was a time when every Jew could take it for granted that he or she would have Jewish grandchildren with whom to share Seders, Sabbath and other Jewish moments. However, the clear data indicates that this expectation is no longer well founded. Indeed, our studies show that within a short period of time the entire complexion of the American Jewish community will be altered inexorably.


As was the case with the NJPS 1990, the NJPS 2000 targeted four key quantifiable elements of Jewish survival: marriage rates, intermarriage rates, birth rates, and levels of Jewish education. When all of these factors are tabulated and correlated, a troubling picture emerges of the future of American Jewry. Skyrocketing intermarriage rates, declining birth rates, and inadequate Jewish education continue to decimate the American Jewish people."

My ideal society would be very social-safety-net oriented.  Free schooling through college and graduate school, with financial support for students to live on.  Free health care of any kind, with people having the right to choose their own providers and treatments, if any.  Public transportation widely available and encouraged.  Urban development promoted and urban sprawl curbed with strict zoning and environmental laws.  

Autistics and other neurodivergent people would be fully accepted and integrated in all levels of society.  It would be an openly neurodiverse society with people having the ability to perform social functions best suited to them.  

People would have individual rights over their own lives.  People's freedom of belief and expression would be respected.  Drug use would be completely legal as long as it was done in private.  

And the speed limit would be 35 mph or lower everywhere.  Strictly enforced.  If you don't like it, take one of the subways, buses, or high-speed trains we'll build.

Ian Wrote:
Democracy is the fantasy of the weak.


Democracy is far too much work for the weak.

The fantasy of the weak is that they can just surrender everything to some Big Nice Dictator who will give them ice-cream, plasma TV's, lottery tickets  and an occasional peek up Britney Spears' skirt.

(To which Ian, on a good day, replies, "And Democracy is the illusion that every four years they get a new chance at electing that Big Nice Dictator."

And Max says, "I knew you were going to say that...")

Is this now, officially, the most insane thread in the history of AFF?

And I don't mean "insane" in a good way.



GuessWho Wrote:
No, I am not a woman, nor gay, but I fancied good old Marshland coming to their defense too in a June 1990 daydream I bothered to write down.

A Wikipedia description of the plot might go like this:

Diplomatic conditions are deteriorating badly between Marshland and _______ with riots outside the Marsh embassy as well as civil unrest at home as Marshes start to persecute their Christian minority.

Ambassador Elizabeth Gordon is the Marsh ambassador with a staff of 150 and 60 Marsh marines as security.  She expects to be recalled any day.

Tom Genkis and Fred Harmon wish to leave _______ because they are gay in a predominantly-Christian country.  Before they can reach the Marsh embassy, a gang harasses them.  They devour Tom as Fred gets away, running for the compound.

Ambassador Gordon initially invokes Ministry of State protocol, trying to seal off the compound, but she is too late as Fred jumps into the compound and asks a Marsh marine colonel, Brenda Boxer, for assistance.   Before the marine can explain peculiarities of international law, Ambassador Gordon runs over.  

The ambassador does not want to cause a lot of trouble but as a former Marine she is damned if she is going to let this go on.  She takes Boxer's semiautomatic pistol and walks into the street, driving off the crowd with a succession of shoots.  "The worst I'd get is dirty looks and a deportation." she explains to Colonel Boxer as she two Marines carry Tom, who needs prompt medical attention, inside.

The difficulty is getting Tom out of the country for medical attention.  The ambassador finds a fine print regulation in the diplomatic treaty of 1989 that lets an unarmed helicopter medevac embassy personnel.  Without too much delay, she gets the female Marsh Prime Minister to give approval to send a helo from a carrier offshore.  All the same, the Prime Minister orders the carrier to be on alert if the rescue flight is opposed.  

It is not, except by one police officer who raises his service weapon at the landing helo.  Boxer, on the compound wall, illuminates the officer's badge and chest with a laser target finder, and the officer holsters his weapon.

Nevertheless, the officer shouts a curse at the Marshes as the helo takes off with Tom and Fred, landing on the carrier.  The pilot returns with a polite salute.

Three weeks later, they are Marsh citizens in the homeland.  The Prime Minister quietly refuses to prosecute the ambassador, and even gives her a medal when the embassy staff soon return after diplomatic relations are terminated.

Spoilers end here.

tenaciouscj Wrote:

Gay people shouldn't get eaten up by monsters either - that's horrible to think of!


Horrible, yes. And in GuessWho's case it's also terribly revealing and predictable.... as he circles the drain on his way to being a completely irrelevant and offensive troll...

GuessWho Wrote:
Religious distribution

All humanist:    42%
   Buddhist       32%
   New Age        8%
   All other         2%

All Christian:     47%
    Baptist          8%
    Methodist      7%
    Lutheran       4%
    Other Prot.    2%
    Catholic        9%
    Orthodox:      3%
    Jehovah W.:  11%
    Mormon:         2%
    Other:           1%

Islam:                3%
Jewish:              2%
Atheist:              5%
All other:            1%


Only 4% Lutheran?

Tim

GuessWho Wrote:
My parents were raised Lutheran.  They deliberately raised us neutrally with respect to religions.


I am also Lutheran.

Tim

I live very secularly, though.

Tim
Yes indeed. God help America.
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