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Autistic mice show skills similar to human cases
MUTANT mice with an autism gene display striking learning skills mirroring those seen in human "savants", new research shows.

The main abnormality seen in the genetically engineered mice was a poor ability to interact socially, a hallmark of aut-ism disorders.

But this was coupled with significantly enhanced spatial learning and memory skills. The mutants were better able than normal mice to learn and remember the location of a submerged platform.

The mice produced by scientists at Howard Hughes Medical Institute in Chevy Chase, Maryland, in the United States, have a mutant version of a gene called neuroligin-3. The same variant is found in some humans with classical autism and Asperger syndrome, a particular autistic disorder.

Neuroligin-3 produces a protein involved in the junction points that let nerve cells to "talk" to each other.

Autism in humans has also produced individuals with unusual memory gifts. So-called "savants" have performed astonishing feats of drawing from memory, the playing of intricate classical music after one listening, and complex maths calculations at speed.

Dr Thomas Sudhof, who led the research published in the online version of Science, said the "remarkable" mice offered a new tool for understanding autism.

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Socially Awkward Mice Are Apt Models for Autism Research
    
  By Neil Osterweil, Senior Associate Editor, MedPage Today
Reviewed by Zalman S. Agus, MD; Emeritus Professor at the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine.
September 06, 2007


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DALLAS, Sept. 6 -- Clues into how autism spectrum disorders work may emerge from mice with a mutation that makes them socially awkward but enhances cognitive abilities. Action Points

Explain to patients who ask that the research described here was conducted only in mice, and that it is not known whether the same findings apply to people.


Explain that the genetic mutation the authors described is seen in only a small percentage of people with autism spectrum disorders.
Transgenic mice with a mutation in the gene encoding for neuroligin-3, a synaptic cellular adhesion molecule, showed both social impairment and enhanced spatial learning abilities, a mix typical of some patients with autism, Asperger's syndrome, or related conditions, reported Thomas C. Südhof, M.D., of the University of Texas Southwestern here, and colleagues.


The behavioral changes the investigators observed in the mice were accompanied by increases of inhibitory synaptic transmission but not excitatory transmission, the authors reported online in Science Express, the rapid online version of Science.


"Our data strongly support the notion that a change in the inhibitory-excitatory balance contributes to the pathogenesis of autism spectrum disorders," they wrote.


If it can be shown that the mouse model accurately mimics the pathology of autism, it would suggest the possibility of treating some forms of autism spectrum disorders with therapies that can attenuate inhibitory synaptic transmission, the investigators said.


To see whether autism may be caused by an imbalance in synaptic circuits, the authors bred mice with an R451C-substitution in the gene encoding for neuroligin-3. A related mutation in humans is associated with familial idiopathic autism.


The investigators also bred a line of neuroligin-3 knockout mice for comparison purposes. They found that both murine strains appeared to be physically normal and had normal life spans.


The genetic substitution resulted in about a 90% reduction in neurologin-3 in the forebrain, and the deletion of the gene results in complete absence of the cellular adhesion molecule. However, mice with the R451C-substitution had an increase in the strength of inhibitory synaptic impulses, whereas the knockout mice did not. There were no significant changes in excitatory synaptic transmission.


The investigators then looked at the behaviors of the animals with the gene substitution to see whether the changes in synaptic transmission translated into changes in social behavior.


They found that the R451C-substitution mice were no different from wild-type controls in the time they spent examining a new inanimate object in their cages. But when a new caged adult mouse was introduced, they showed a small but significant decrease in interaction times compared with wild-type mice.


Although the neuroligin-3 deficient mice had social deficits, they appeared to have enhanced spatial memory, taking fewer days to learn the location of the submerged platform in a swim test, and finding the platform location nearly twice as often as controls.


"This combination of electrophysiological and behavioral effects is quite remarkable," Dr. Südhof said. "It was also significant that these mice did not exhibit any other impairment of nervous system function -- there was no abnormal locomotor activity or motor coordination, for example. This was a selective change, with social impairment on the one hand, yet cognitive enhancement on the other."


The study was supported by the National Institute of Mental Health. Potential author conflicts of interest were not listed.  





This reminds me of The Secret of NIMH. The study was even supported by NIMH. Did any of you see this animated movie?

I'd like an Asperger mouse named Algernon but then again so would my cat. Oh goodie now i can give GuessWho a dead mouse!
Interesting, seeing as spatial skills is one of my very worst abilities... along with Math.
What is familial idiopathic autism?
How do you diagnose autism in Mice?

GuessWho Wrote:
I'd like an Asperger mouse named Algernon but then again so would my cat. Oh goodie now i can give GuessWho a dead mouse!


--- giggle --- Big Grin

grizeldatee Wrote:

Batman55 Wrote:
Interesting, seeing as spatial skills is one of my very worst abilities... along with Math.


I am am walking roadmap.  If I have ever been there, I can return. I always thought it was because we moved so much growing up that I just became accustomed to learning areas quickly.  I never considered another possibility until my oldest was identified autistic in first grade.


Way to show me that I'm alone among autistics, with my serious spatial deficits.

And my math skills are below the average person in the NT population.

grizeldatee Wrote:

Batman55 Wrote:

grizeldatee Wrote:

Batman55 Wrote:
Interesting, seeing as spatial skills is one of my very worst abilities... along with Math.


I am am walking roadmap.  If I have ever been there, I can return. I always thought it was because we moved so much growing up that I just became accustomed to learning areas quickly.  I never considered another possibility until my oldest was identified autistic in first grade.


Way to show me that I'm alone among autistics, with my serious spatial deficits.

And my math skills are below the average person in the NT population.


So?  Oh, dear, you're not average.  Is that really such a horrible thing?

It's only a big deal if you make it a big deal -- haven't noticed any one else going on about your differences.  Pick some other feature of your personality to dwell upon.  Choose something you feel at least reasonably good about.  Think about your life the same way you'd go about decorating your room.  Would you keep only the objects that made you feel bad? How does a person feel in a room where every object has a bad memory or stimulates a bad thought?  Get rid of that stuff and choose your furnishings carefully to help you feel good about yourself and your world.  Create a mental room where you can feel better.  Feng shui for the brain.  Choosing to put away the memories and thoughts that made me feel bad was one of the best decisions I made in my life.  A wound never heals if you keep picking at the scab -- or you get a dreadful scar when it finally does heal.  Once you start letting the bad things go, it gets easier to let the bad things go.  And why would you want to keep them around?  I've lived it and understand the comforting familiarity of negativity, but it is a pox infested blanket -- no real comfort at all.


Now you say I'm below average.  Thanks for making me feel even worse than I did before!

You know what, don't talk to me anymore.  Sorry, but that's about the most polite thing I could say to you right now.

I don't think I could form the words to describe how angry I am right now.  I never expected anyone to agree with me that I am a goddamned lemon, and here you are.

Thanks again for ruining my day.  The disgust I feel toward you simply couldn't be translated to the screen because I would be banned.

Batman55 Wrote:
Way to show me that I'm alone among autistics, with my serious spatial deficits.

And my math skills are below the average person in the NT population.


So are mine, I have to count on my fingers. Truly.

Ziyaret Wrote:
How do you diagnose autism in Mice?


You ask the a question about their interests and than time how long they monologue for.

{snicker}

That's about what I was wondering... It seems to me that a test for "autistic" mice would have to be a physical test, would it not?

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grizeldatee Wrote:

Batman55 Wrote:

Now you say I'm below average.  Thanks for making me feel even worse than I did before!

You know what, don't talk to me anymore.  Sorry, but that's about the most polite thing I could say to you right now.


I said you are not average.  Why would you intentionally misunderstand this as negative?  News flash.  I'm not average either.  In fact, I'm not even sure what average is -- maybe it doesn't exist.  A phantom. A running rabbit. A meaningless number.

I won't talk to you since that is your preference, but you need to know that I DID NOT insult you.  If all you want is some one to hand you tissues while you sit on the pity-pot you can't really use a friend like me anyway.

Peace.


I took "not average" to mean "below average" because it seemed like a polite way to say it.

I've said before I need people to tell me I'm smart because that's what I want to be, but it's not "real."  Still I'd rather live a fake life and pretend that I have intellect than accept the crap I was actually given.

EvilZakkie Wrote:
It's probably the wrong place to fish for compliments - Aspies tend to be pretty literal, so we'll take everything you say at face value. None of us really know you very well - our only glimpse into your life is the posts you write here.

That being said, I've always thought you have an interesting perspective on some of the odd little discussions we have here. Have you ever thought about writing parody or satire? There's plenty of newspapers around that accept submissions for life-observation columns...


Thanks for the insight  Big Grin

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