On my more cynical days, this what I see:
If you were to think of human experience and diversity as a scale from 1 to 100, most people are only comfortable with the range from 49 to 51. And they all think they are God's Perfect 50.
Everything that falls outside of that narrow, familiar band might as well be from some hostile planet in another galaxy. If you're a 52 you might as well be a 99. And all of mankind's Labels of Fear and Loathing await you -- sinner, freak, weirdo, deviate, sick, disabled, evil, etc. etc. etc.
Personally, anybody between 40 and 60 bores me to tears.
They're jealous because we don't have their need to conform ourselves to the norms that they're struggling to meet.
They're jealous because we don't have their need to conform ourselves to the norms that they're struggling to meet.
Well we struggle just as much if not more than they do, so there really isn't that much to be jealous about. Can't they understand that?
Yes, we do. But they can't understand that or they just wont...
Here it is: John Best is an autistic person in denial.
Think about it.
* He has an obsessive interest (neurodiversity).
* He appears to lack any social skills.
* If his son is autistic, then obviously his family has autistic genes.
* If the gay rights movement has taught us anything, it's that the worst bigots are people in denial.
On a side note, I'd like to thank you for helping the cause of neurodiversity with your blog. Truly, people like yourself make neurodiversity look good.
Kindest regards,
Zakkie."
That's just f*ing brilliant!
apology: world's longest post ahead:
... ONLY when she apologises for insulting me first by refusing to take my view of John Best Junior seriously.
That's what this was all about? Wilky didn't take your John Best thing seriously?
Well. I'm not sure what to say. (so it will take 5,000 words to say it)
You know I consider your obsession with Best essentially delusional. Months ago, when you first posted about your fears that John Best would be elected president and take over America as Hitler did Germany, I tried to talk to you and explain that you didn't need to be fearful and angry about this inconsequential little nobody.
When it became clear to me that you had a profound psychological invested in this John Best delusional system, I dropped it. I wanted to talk you out of the beliefs because they don't make you happy -- they take up way too much of your time, and they create enormous anxiety and anger for you -- which carries over into your totally unnecessary cyber-conflicts with infidels like Wilky and all your other "enemies." (not all of them -- some of them are legitimate asses.)
I have a close friend with delusional disorder, and I know there's no way to rationally convince her that Eugene -- the 70+-year old Chinese man next door to her -- is NOT breaking into her house to put sugar in her food, kill her roses, and release her cats into the wild. She believes it; it is her reality.
Based on her beliefs, she has enlisted a couple of friends to spy on the old man, she has dragged him to court to bring legal actions against him, and she has gone throughout the neighborhood telling everyone what an evil, malicious, destructive thing the old man is. At her instigation, the poor old guy became an object of scorn, hostility, and inflamed prejudice (he's not like us) in his own neighborhood.
I understand my friend is delusional and I take that seriouly. But I can't take her delusions "seriously" as you demand Wilky and everybody take your John Best obsession. How can I? I am bound by reality, and I can no more seriously consider that Eugene is walking through the walls of Susan's house than I can believe that John Best is on the path to world domination a la Adolph Hitler.
Harsh reality: it's unreasonable to expect your views on John Best to be taken seriously because they are not reality-based. I take your obsession with him seriously, because that is real, and I wish you could be happily released from it.
What Wilky and I and so many others should have done was to just nod and walk away when you go into John Best mode. I think it's reasonable for you want your boundaries respected: "Leave me alone with my obsession and don't try to take it away from me." That's how I felt after the first couple of times I tried to explain to you that, beyond the air that he breathes, John Best barely registers on the face of this earth, and you didn't need to make yourself miserable worrying about him.
The problem was that you refused to keep your John Best thing to yourself, or to keep it relatively contained-- you became evangelical and aggressive about it, and at that point you were violating other people's boundaries, like my friend going after poor Eugene.
Like GuessWho and his god-hates-fags obsession, you are an okay guy outside of the obsession. But when GuessWho goes into the god-hates-fags preaching, I feel like Eugene. Wilky has become your Eugene. You have a long list of Eugenes. It started with an actual evil creep (John Best) but it has expanded to target other people for their failure to comply with the dictates of your delusion. That is an unreasonable expectation on your part.
Where does it stop, and how does it stop?
You have a total right to your beliefs. Everyone does. But Wilky et al also have a right -- a right not to be thrust into Eugene's position.
I can't see why Wilky would need or want an apology from you. It doesn't seem at all necessary -- to me, your hateful attacks on her fall into the realm of "diminished capacity" because when we enter the John Best Obsession Zone, your capacity for realistic thinking is diminished.
Do I think you should apologize? Yes. For two reasons: 1) She deserves it -- and 2) anything that brings peace to you and moves you a little distance from the heat of the John Best War is good for you. But if it's just something you can't do, I don't suppose it really matters.
GuessWho, I really don't think anybody in the f'king world wants to hear another god-hates-fags word out of you. What makes it impossible for you to just shut the hell up and talk your ignorant bigoted anti-gay drivel to your fellow fundies come Sunday morning at the hate rally?
And you can take your repulsive Christofascist Militarism metaphors with you. I can't imagine a true christian (and I'm beginning to doubt you've ever met one) who would not be utterly disgusted by such a sick and persistent degradation of spirituality. Bombs, wars, mass murder -- what the hell is wrong with you?
30 tons of free fall iron explode-on-impact bombs don't ask any questions about sexual orientation.
Neither does God.
That is sick, Chris. Absolutely disgusting. I'm an atheist and even I am offended by such a hateful and pathological depiction of god.
You're the expert on what gay life is like, but you are not an expert on Christianity.
Chris -- that was an incredibly bigoted, stupid and homophobic thing to say. I'm an expert on "gay life"? So twisted ad homophobic. Yeah, all a faggot knows is that fag stuff, right? Black people only know n****r stuff, too, I'm sure. That is the very definition of bigoted thinking. A homo is just a homo and that's all. A N**** is just a n*****. We've all seen your umpteen bitter, racist references to that "black woman" who stole the job you were "entitled" to. Hard to imagine they would hire her over you, isn't it? I mean here you are, God's Chosen Angel of Arrogant Spiritual Superiority, and what could a black woman possibly know besides "black life"?
No wonder your arrested mentality is so comfortably stuck and stagnated in a cesspool of fundamentalism. It really connects with your kind of ignorant bigotry.
God is hate! God is a weapon of ass destruction! God hates everybody! You poor, sick wretch. You think it's Jesus that puts this kind of twisted thinking in your head? You defile everything Jesus aught with such garbage.
And that leads us to the saddest thing of all. "you are not an expert on Christianity."
That's right, Chris. I'm not. I'm very far from an expert on christianity. But here's the bitter, ironic truth: I know a lot more about Christianity than you do. Because all you know is a thousand hateful distortions of what Jesus taught, and you are as utterly and absolutely ignorant of his truth as a hog in a mud puddle.
It is better to know nothing than for everything you arrogantly think you know to be so flagrantly and poisonously wrong. Jesus wouldn't recognize the degraded, blasphemous hate-mongering you "church" wallows in.
People hate us because we are different. Many people pretend to like 'different' people but they really don't like us.
If all of GuessWho's anti-gay threads are locked, that would be fine. Nothing worthwhile lost.
But the onus is not on the gay people to accept the bashing.
I am guilty of the same infraction, over and over--I complain and dance around the same issues, same problems time and time again, without fixing anything. It seems to be a common AS tendency. And now we have people here being punished for it, verbally.
Apples and oranges, batman. yes, you are self-obsessed, and -- to one extent or another -- who among us isn't?
But your repetitious posts are about your own issues, which you have every right to. They are not endlessly denouncing the "sins" of others and judging them.
Check my IM.
Then you say silly comments such as "I hear you loud and clear, CJ". I'm not interested in whether or not you hear me; it is of an irrelevance. What I am looking for and not seeing is some indication that you might be LISTENING instead!
I was amused that right after you posted this, we got another GuessWho post about "the homosexuals" when I have told him that referring to gay people as "homosexuals" is usually obnoxious and that it's the preferred vocabulary of homophobes.
I believe after I explained that to him (how long ago?) he said "I hear you" -- but his persistent use of the term tells me who he's really hearing.
It may be hard for many women to keep up with me
Gee, it's good that you "hear" Ethel and WfM and CJ and move past the condescending crap. 
Think of it like proximity fuse. The shell explodes if it is close enough. If you wait for a direct hit, you will always miss. That is why they invented the thing, jacked up the kill ratio.
Chris, WTF are you TALKING about? People don't compare everything in thedir lives and the next to a bunch of stupid militaristic nonsense. If you want anyone to listen to you or take you seriously at all, stop it!
That's why some Christians say the old testament is now superseded and is mostly of interest as a historical document.
I thought people mostly ignored us.
Agreed - maybe organisations need to become more horizontally structured in their philosophical approach.
I agreeā¦
I don't think we've ever agreed as much, have we Lucie.lol
I think group size is a factor. Horizontal, even egalitarian structures work very well for small groups; but once a group gets bigger (say 150 people) this structure functions less well; and a hierarchy has implemented to main order--otherwise there would be too many competing ideas and things would decent into chaos.
There is still room for flexibility and horizontally structured philosophy amongst small teams.