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Would a mod please break up the second link?

And I'll say no more than that for pretty obvious reasons! Wink
I think most people here know that I have at least three THREADS with my real name on it. Not just in the content - in the title!

And bluntly I don't feel honoured at all - if only because it attracted trouble from others who are enemies of mine from elsewhere and caused me considerable distress. I might not have minded otherwise.

I back Max's comments, because Fore Sam has a history of bigotry even outside ASD's. He's a homophobe, and a chauvenist. No wonder he didn't get himself a wife until he was the wrong side of 40! LMAO!

Sorry! I'll shut up now!

GuessWho Wrote:
Timelord, that's not very funny, I am almost 40.  Apology accepted in advance.


Apology issued backwards through time accordingly (I'm good at that!)

Sorry, Guess - the remark was aimed exclusively at the subject and no one else.

Zakkie, if he doesn't let it through - can I use that for my section on him on my Wiki? I'll use it anyway if he lets it through (sorry if that offends but that's the way I work that). I'm finally about to update it (from 13 pages it's now going up to 16!) after much hard work and plenty of distractions!

Oh so it went onto the post where he called Kev Leitch a hypocrite! I saw that! I took a grab from that for my update (it's listed under the quotes aimed at Kev plus my comment on it). I'll have to remember to quote the post above on my next update, Zakkie!

He'll say a hacker got in and deleted it - but I'll bet he got an email from Kev telling him to remove it or else!

Quite right, Silky. Since I was DXed with Aspergers I've tried to avoid that. Not easy IRL. Almost impossible on the Internet!

Erk - he's serious about chelation. Everyone who's a rescue angel with Generation Rescue is serious about it. He's even stated that he chelates himself to avoid Alzheimers!
People dont like other people who are different from them(well at least most are like that). It really does appear to be a hardwired instinct. Often people dont know even know why so they make up some stupid bullshit to try to justify it.BTW aliengirl I started a thread all about hatingautism in the News and Media forum; the guy behind it is nothing but a insecure troll/wanker.

aliengirl Wrote:
Has anyone here ever been bullied / abused / discriminated against because of AS?


Yep. It's why I don't work - because I was treated like that in the work place, and the whole thing was judged not on the behaviour of others, but my responses. Because I never got closure on it - and as it stands the way I was treated was correct (which to any reasonable person it was anything but). For example - one employer accused me of "wilful misconduct" (this was before I was DXed with Aspergers) when in fact I was provoked. That view was confirmed by the Australian Administrative Appeals Tribunal. I tried to get the issue re-opened after my DX, but they played the "out of time" card and concentrated on that refusing to even acknowledge the diagnosis!

Another employer (who I was working for at the time of my diagnosis) seemed OK, but then when my DX arrived they changed their tune and engineered a scenario that had me judged as "unfit for employment with the Australian Public Service" - and consequently lost my job. I tried to fight that one as well, but they claimed unjustifiable hardship (which is a big problem in Australian Law) so my hands were tied.

I haven't worked since. (April 1997)

That's why my back goes up (so to speak) when anyone accuses me of bludging. How can I go into an environment where I have no protection from abuse? That has to change before I'll even think about rejoining the work force.

*ignores the insincere and mocking "apology" above*

aliengirl Wrote:
I am not familiar with Australian law - what is "unjustifiable hardship"?


It means that if an employer has issues that can not be justified (in their eyes - which is where the problem is) they can avoid being charged with disability discrimination because of what they have done. For example - my second employer complained that my behaviour was disrupting the work place (which it wasn't but they engineered a scenario so it would appear as though it was) to a point that it just couldn't be handled. The reality was I wasn't the problem. My supervisor was the problem - she wanted flexibility and wouldn't tolerate my need for routine even though the job was being done (except to her loffty standards!)

I hope that explains that.

Max, just to explain the enemies list on my Wiki - that's there to warn people away from certain people, and more importantly certain organisations. The articles explain why. Not all my enemies are there - and my friends and family outnumber them anyway. I have no need to re-assess things. My enemies do - they are enemies because they have done the wrong thing to me, and demonstrate an attitude that reflects in virtually all the NT's who give us Aspies trouble.

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And I wonder if Timelord feels he has got what he deserves...


I have on occasion. If I've done the wrong thing I'll admit it. I've been penalised - and I've copped it as well. Heck, I had to spend 18 months on the sidelines of the local wrestling scene because of one careless remark. It served me right. I shouldn't have said what I said.

But with Wilky - no. I did nothing wrong unprovoked. If she wants an apology, I'll be happy to comply - when and ONLY when she apologises for insulting me first by refusing to take my view of John Best Junior seriously. And genuinely and not mockingly (as she has already tried to do), and acknowledge her fault. Until then - I stick by my guns. A person who apologises dishonestly (as I would be doing if I did apologise now) is a coward in my opinion.

Max, I am NOT delusional. You forget - because of Best's behaviour and slander, I got a visit from the police! That's not dangerous? Was the visit a figment of my imagination? NO! That's hardly an inconsequential little nobody responsible for that! And I'll add something that you aren't aware of - he has a sock puppet promoting the deletion of all vaccines. That's not dangerous either? We have a former health minister here in Australia who sees the danger and is encouraging his former colleagues to get tough with vaccines as he did when he was in Parliament.

If you can't see the danger then your world is a lot smaller than you think. That's fine - but don't try and impose it on me! That's an insult and I won't stand for it.

And I told you to stay right away from me, Rossco!! Wilky did the wrong thing. That's not an insult - it's the bloody TRUTH!! At least you had the sense to see that Wilky wasn't helping in this thread - I'll give you that much.

So you apologise if you don't mean it in your heart? That's cowardice - because it means you have no principles. A person who sacrifices principles no matter what the reason has nothing.

Guess, I respect your fears - just for the record. Seems to me that Max is showing you the same level of disrepect as he is to me, so you have my support. Just one thing though - don't get carried away with the religious side of it, OK? Smile

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You did the wrong thing and your interpretations on things in general is not real.


Yes it IS real - and the sooner you show respect for that the better. My experience in life is different to yours and you flatly refuse to recognise the relevance of experience when it comes to being an Aspie.

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I think the way I conduct myself is fine.


So do I, so leave me alone!

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If you REALLY want me to "stay away from you" you will avoid opportunities to disrespect those I care about. If you REALLY want closure it starts with an apology to Wilky and taking down the "AS Disappointment" drivel.


The More AS disappointment article stays, and I have already explained why. It's a part of my personal history that I consider important. I don't give a crap what anyone thinks about it - it's the truth, and I refuse to remove the truth from my Wiki. The closure with Wilky starts with an apology from HER - not me. She copped it from me because of what SHE said. As long as she refuses to admit that and apologise I will not budge. If she did nothing wrong - then neither did I.

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Your illness has put you in a position where no matter what you do, you can't get any closure, any respect, or ultimately any satisfaction.


I am not ill. Aspergers is not an illness (thank you, Batman). And I will not be insulted like that because I WILL get closure. I already have respect in other quarters - much to your chagrin.

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Anything an adult has learned in their life it is that there are fights worth fighting and those worth walking AND that In order to change life for the better you have to adapt and that invariably means sacrifice.


One thing I will not sacrifice is my principles - as I have explained. My strength is being me and being accepted as me. You won't do it, because you are biased towards my conduct in one limited area. I fight my battles in the way I see fit, and in the only way that makes sense to me. I have tried to adapt, but others like you limit those options by pushing me in directions that I know through experience that I can't go. That's what you refuse to accept.

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By not embracing these qualities and ideologies you doom yourself to an existence where you constantly run into these problems. They will never resolve and the world will seem such an unfair place full of unfair people.


You've got no idea, Rossco. Absolutely no idea. They will resolve. That is what I am fighting for - and I am certain things will improve (and you know this as a fellow Australian) with a change in Federal Government. The most important thing is getting the enquiry off the ground (you know the one). That's not worth fighting for?

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A lot of this is to do with your illness. I understand that and that is why I am explaining this and why Max has taken the time to explain.


I repeat, I am not ill. As long as you and Max don't understand that you have nothing useful to say to me.

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We really don't have to and it is not for OUR benefit.


Then LEAVE ME ALONE!

To answer Pikajedi's question it was the situation with Kurai-Gaka - I was accused of sexually pursuing her. Based on a comment on my Wiki which was taken deliberately out of context by Best.

woman from mars Wrote:
What & where is this ' ignore list '?


It's in the User CP area, WfM. The trouble is it only works to prevent people from PMing you. If this board was a VBulletin board the ignore list would also include posts from an ignored person also - except for mods and admins.

Ethel Wrote:
You're just disagreeing for the sake of disagreement.

If that is how you see my post - I won't bother responding to you again.

We see things very differently - I put don't put value judgments on people the way you do.
I don't call other forum member nutters - not a term I would use.

Yes - you can be barmy - barmy is a charming term. In a way - through the way you write - I can see a certain barminess in you, that I can also see in myself.
oh - i should say the 'certain' barminess I see in you is reassuring - because I recognise you are very wise.
There's a difference between saying "GF/CF makes people with touchy digestive systems healthier" and "GF/CF cures autism". The first one's a solid theory; both wheat and milk can be hard to digest. The second one's unproven, with no evidence. You would have to pick autistic kids with good digestion and put them on the GF/CF diet, and see if it helps. Actually, I was on GF/CF a good chunk of my childhood because my mom has one of the aforesaid touchy digestive systems, and it was easier to just buy for the whole family. It made no difference to me when I was on or off it--I've had depression both with and without milk and wheat in my diet, and my autistic symptoms have been pretty constant, increasing or decreasing only as a function of stress.

Get fifty more like me--autistic with no digestive problems--put them on GF/CF. Take another fifty, give them normal meals different only in the milk/wheat component. Tell neither group (or their nutritionists) which they're getting. Monitor autistic traits. Should lead to a decent answer by the end of six months or so.
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