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Interesting piece on intuitive "gut feelings" -- how well does this apply to AS and NT folks here? Is it an NT thing, or do Aspies also experience what is being described here? Is it experienced differently?

Through Analysis, Gut Reaction Gains Credibility
By CLAUDIA DREIFUS

Two years ago, when Malcolm Gladwell published his best-selling “Blink: The Power of Thinking Without Thinking,” readers throughout the world were introduced to the ideas of Gerd Gigerenzer, a German social psychologist.

Dr. Gigerenzer, the director of the Max Planck Institute for Human Development in Berlin, is known in social science circles for his breakthrough studies on the nature of intuitive thinking. Before his research, this was a topic often dismissed as crazed superstition. Dr. Gigerenzer, 59, was able to show how aspects of intuition work and how ordinary people successfully use it in modern life.

And now he has written his own book, “Gut Feelings: The Intelligence of the Unconscious,” which he hopes will sell as well as “Blink.” “I liked Gladwell’s book,” Dr. Gigerenzer said during a visit to New York City last month. “He’s popularized the issue, including my research.”

Q: O.K., let’s start with basics: what is a gut feeling?

A: It’s a judgment that is fast. It comes quickly into a person’s consciousness. The person doesn’t know why they have this feeling. Yet, this is strong enough to make an individual act on it. What a gut instinct is not is a calculation. You do not fully know where it comes from.


My research indicates that gut feelings are based on simple rules of thumb, what we psychologists term “heuristics.” These take advantage of certain capacities of the brain that have come down to us through time, experience and evolution. Gut instincts often rely on simple cues in the environment. In most situations, when people use their instincts, they are heeding these cues and ignoring other unnecessary information.

Q: In modern society, gut thinking has a bad reputation. Why is that?

A: It is not thought to be rational. One of the founders of your country, Benjamin Franklin, suggested to his nephew that when he made important life decisions, he should do it like a bookkeeper — list all the pros and cons and then make the decision, after weighing everything. That is the classical rational approach.

Q: I make my decisions that way. What’s wrong with it?

A: In some situations, that demands too much information. Plus, it’s slow. When a person relies on their gut feelings and uses the instinctual rule of thumb “go with your first best feeling and ignore everything else,” it can permit them to outperform the most complex calculations.

In the 1990s, I was living in Chicago, where there are high dropout rates from the high schools. People often asked, “Is there a way to know which school has the lowest dropout rate?” There existed data measuring different cues of school performance: the pay of teachers, the number of English-speaking students in a class, things like that.

I wondered: could one feed these into a computer, analyze them and obtain a prediction on which high school produced the fewest dropouts? We did that. And we were astonished to find that computer-based versions of Franklin’s bookkeeping method — a program that weighed 18 different cues — proved less accurate than going with the rule of thumb of “get one good reason and ignore the rest of the information.”

Q: What was the “one good reason” that got you the right answer?

A: Knowing which school had high daily attendance rates. If two schools had the same attendance levels, you needed one more cue — good writing scores — and then you could ignore the rest.

Q: You are the author of a famous study on how people use instinct in investing. Why this topic?

A: Because intuition often underlies stock picking. Ordinary investors will frequently pick a company they’ve heard of before. We call this the “recognition heuristic,” and it basically means “go with what you know.” I was curious: is this effective? In the 1990s, we interviewed 360 pedestrians in Chicago and Munich. We asked if they were familiar with the names of German and American corporations traded on the stock exchange. Using the names of the most frequently recognized companies, we then made up investment portfolios.

After six months, the high-recognition portfolios, on average, gained more value than the Dow and DAX markets and some big-name mutual funds. The high-recognition portfolios did better than a portfolio we created from randomly picked stocks and another made up of low-recognition stocks. Over the years, we’ve repeated this experiment twice, in different ways. Each time, the intuitive wisdom of the semi-ignorant outperformed the calculations of the experts.

Q: Have you considered going to your pedestrians for investment advice?

A: Yes! I did that once. I invested $50,000 in high-recognition stocks picked by the least stock-savvy group we studied, those German pedestrians. Their portfolio went up 47 percent in six months, as opposed to the 34 percent gains made by the German stock market as a whole. This was during a bull market.

Q: Where can gut instincts fail?

A: Here’s an example: after 9/11, many Americans stopped traveling in airplanes and drove on highways instead. I looked at the data, and it turned out that in the year after the attacks, highway fatalities increased by an estimated 1,500 people. They had listened to their fear, and so more died on the road. These kinds of fatalities are easily avoided. But psychology is not taken very seriously by governments. Most of the research about how to combat terrorism is about technology and bureaucracy — homeland security. In this case, educating the public about their own gut reactions could have saved lives.

Q: Some of your critics say that gut instincts just aren’t scientific. What’s your answer?

A: We study these things, where intuition is good and where it’s not. One should also not overlook that in science itself, you need intuitions. All successful research scientists function, to a degree, on gut instincts. They must make leaps, whether they have all the data or not. And at a certain moment, having the data doesn’t help them, but they still must know what to do. That’s when instinct comes in.

Q: Do you think of yourself as intuitive or rational?

A: Both. In my scientific work, I have hunches. I can’t explain always why I think a certain path is the right way, but I need to trust it and go ahead. I also have the ability to check these hunches and find out what they are about. That’s the science part. Now, in private life, I rely on instinct. For instance, when I first met my wife, I didn’t do computations. Nor did she.

Q: Shakespeare’s “Hamlet” is about a young man who doesn’t respond to his first best instinct, which is to avenge his father’s murder by killing his uncle. If Hamlet had listened to his gut, how would the play be different?

A: This is not a scientific kind of question. But the play would have been shorter and probably fewer people would have been killed.
I can't really speak for all Aspies, but I think that technically, ALL people have some sort of gut intinct. A major trait for Aspies/Auties is that we lack SOCIAL instincts ( so we have to use knowledge and past experince, if we have them, to compensate). We probably still have gut feelings for other situations, though.

As for myself (and as I gather, a lot of other Aspies), I probably don't use my gut instinct that much in everyday life, since I'm a "bookkeeper" sort of person - I prefer to have all/most of the facts before I make a decision.
Not that I don't EVER follow my gut - though I'm ot really sure how much I actually use it. I'd like to be a bit less shy aout my orientation, for instance, but I'm always a worried about how people will react. I don't know if my gut is helping or hindering me here (it may well be what's holding me back, but you never know...)
The doctor guy (too lazy to scroll) seems to be seperating two things I consider one:

When I make a decision I make a "gut instinct". But that instinct is based off my perception of the book-keepers list... Not that I actually write out a list... but at some point I say to myself, "I think this isn't such a good idea... I have a gut feeling that I shouldn't jump off this bridge..." but that feeling is based off of rational thoughts, I think.

And I think that whole stock thing is kind of dumb... at least from my perspective on investing. If Joe Blow is walking down the street and has some brands floating around in his head, usually a lot of other people are thinking about those same brands. If they are thinking about it they may make a purchasing decision towards that end and bring that stock up... I don't think that's gut instinct... I think that's advertising/branding.

Actually, most of those arguments seem rather stacked...

I personally have never met someone who relied on their gut feelings that was ever correct about them. My old boss would always tout that she had a gut feeling that a new hire was, "the one" and that person would quit within the week... but then again she was just plain crazy...
I rely on intuition quite a lot  & often found in my job that gut feeling was the right answer to a problem or an unusual event.

hrick Wrote:
I have tendency toward a certain type of "gut feeling" that is a bit odd. I'll come across something and a sense of need will come over me, even though rationally I know I have no current need for that item at all. Sure enough, almost every time, a circumstance arises in the next day or two wherein I find I need that very object, whatever it was. I find it saves a lot of future effort if I just heed my intuition when it hits.  Mom

Yes I have that also & to my cost ignored it the other day, then didn't I need one that very night !!

Max, I know more about guts (or gut) than gut feelings. :-)
& no! It's not a thing that only neuro typicals do.
I rely on my gut feeling, but my gut feeling is usualy negative. If something doesn't seem to be right, I wont go on with it. Hardly ever does my gut feeling say "You should do this" unless if I am doing something I am familiar with, like Star Craft. My gut says "Get lots of marines, and goliaths, and throw in some battle cruisers," " Nuke the little A-holes" Then I do it Tongue
I prefer logic. People do a lot of stupid things based on emotion, which is why it is a defense in court.

As to the high recognition stocks doing well, it seems to follow that if all the average Joes put their retirement money into stocks based on big names that they easily recognize, then yes, those stocks will go up. There is also a higher probability that it is an already well established company if it is so commonly known.
Thanks for that, it makes a lot of sense.

On several,but by no means all occasions that I walked the dog in the dark ( it is very dark at night here ) after having my X evicted, I felt that there was something in the woods & quickly returned home, I decided that I had probably unconsciously seen something in my peripheral vision / heard something... could have been anything, but I was in a state of high alert at this time & acted upon my fear.

However this doesn't explain other strange things which I couldn't possibly have known in any sense or with any of the known senses.

tenaciouscj Wrote:

Bella Wrote:
It really depends on the situation as to whether I will try to weigh up all the pro's and con's of a decision or go with my gut feeling.  I do trust my gut feeling when it comes to people. I don't know how but I always know pretty quickly if I like a person or not. I know that in the past the people that I haven't liked at first contact have been the ones that have ended up being a bully, untrustworthy, rude etc etc

Yes indeed. Unfortunately, the gut feelings don't always come through clearly enough for me to act on them and sure enough something bad happens. Quite often, it is just a vague feeling of unease rather than a clear aversion to a person or situation.

I wonder if it is anything to do with psychic powers as mum said her mother was very psychic and she was too but never had the time to develop her own powers.


I can make general decisions when I don't care about the outcome-- I think of it like mentally rolling a die. But I don't generally have 'gut feelings' about big choices like "whats for dinner" and "what do you want to do with your life". There are some things that I tend towards, but I can put them in my 'pros v cons' list as "emotional positive".

I wonder about psychic powers sometimes (though I try not to think about it) when I can sense the mood of my husband without even looking at him, just being in the same room. Personally I think it is a sort of emotional radiation, but one has to be tuned in to sense it.

Max, glad you brought up this topic as I've given it lots of thought. Here's what I feel about intuition:

1. It is often God speaking to you, but sometimes I think it is your spirit guide or other spirit, including your own higher Self.

2. The divine intuition is lightning quick and bypasses the mind entirely. If you have time to really think, it isn't intuition.

3. I write poetry occasionally and have wondered if my creativity is really God's inspiration and not me at all.

3a. We are currently in an Age of Intuition and believe it or not heightened spirituality- we came out of the Age of Reason some time ago Smile

4. When making a decision always run it by your heart first, then your mind. If we all did this the world would start improving, believe me.

4a. People are afraid to run too much by their heart, though....

5. The root of all evil is selfishness- human, corporate, national, ....

5a. The one sin I can't forgive is extreme selfishness, esp. by family. See rant post....

On a personal note, recently I am again more than a little psychic (the last time I was this way I was about 23...). I know when things are going to go awry now, here and there, and it is off-putting to say the least. I must learn to act on this intuition each and every time. For example, recently I asked the guy behind the counter to blow up a mylar balloon for me and the minute I gave it to him my intuition or new and improved psychic ability said "It will break" and it did. It was the LAST "Congrats" one too so I was stuck.  This is one of about four premonitions that were right last week alone. I am not sure why that inner voice is more clear, but it is. I am just going to act on it and leave the store next time! Big Grin
i get gut feelings all the time, the problem is i some times dont pay attention to them. every time i listen to them, things go well, every i ignore them... lets just say the results arent usually in my favor. my gut feelings usually come sorta like a whisper, not like some one whispered it into my ear, but like they whispered it into my mind. then again, maybe im crazy Wink.
I believe in them a lot but I wish there was a way of recognising and acting on them more quickly to avoid getting into bad situations.
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