people who use just kidding at the end of their sentances usually put that if they are unsure of the other person and whether they will take what the person has said in a bad way and will take offence, or at least thats how i would use it. I know of nt people who like to appear fun and will say stupid things the whole time then use j/k at the end. those are the type of people who don't want to be thought of as serious and therefore they think more people will like them.
yes people who joke alot to expect to be taken seriously when they want because they are hypocrites and get angry when thought to be joking when they were being serious. I don't know how to win with that situation.
People who are sarcastic usually change their voice and stretch out syllables.
Most commonly a sarcastic statement means exactly the opposite, for example:
a person trips over, their friend says "that was clever", they really mean that was stupid. also sarcasm has an undertone of nastyness but if a friend makes a sarcastic comment towards you it is usually supposed to be funny and not completly nasty and so it is best to laugh along.
usually sarcastic phrases are used over and over again in life and so it would be useful to learn some to make it easier to recognise.
if a person types something sarcastic it is very difficult, that person should expect to be takn seriously (even though most don't) and it is okay to be offended because nt's also get confused by that.
- Is it generally okay to be an ***/beg for attention/act childishly as long as you say you were joking or trying to be cute?
"Okay" is a subjective concept - many people consider attention getting to be okay, and many people don't. If it's not okay with you, I think it's fine to say so.
- What does 'just kidding' or 'joking, don't take me seriously' mean? Why say something at all if you don't mean it?
The 'just kidding' thing often means that the person is playing a power game and trying to pretend that they're not. Other people accept and laugh along with it because they want to have the right to play their own power games.
Neither pointless nor hairsplitting. These assume that teasing is necessarily entails personal attack, and it doesn't.
Examples (I can make up hundreds without googling anything, thank you very much):
Q: "What's for dinner?"
A: "Fried monkey brains with bug gravy."
Q: "Did you pick up some more tooth paste?"
A: "Nah, I figure life'll be easier once our teeth rot out."
Q: "Can I help?"
A: "Sure, count out 500 grains of salt into this cup."
You want a narrow definition of teasing, but like most things it isn't that simple. I understanding the teasing you are talking about -- I got more than my share growing up. And I got this non-abusive type also, from my dad. It helped me not be a mark for every con artist who came along.
I got this non-abusive type also, from my dad. It helped me not be a mark for every con artist who came along.
Especially those con-artists who try to make you count salt granules and eat monkey brains, I guess.
I logged back in to apologize for getting snippy. The attitude was not productive and I apologize. I'm still right, though.
imho
Peace.
Some of this may be a bit OTT but i write it anyway because i think it is importent and the different things I say does paraxly still have the same purpose.
I joke a lot because I dont know dare to think about what my day would look like if I didnt.I dont make jokes to get attention,its rather a method to relax if Im sad/depressed/stressed out.I have a serious side like most people,as well.I think sence of humor is a value and not sign of a non serious personallity.
I might apper childish for that reason,but in that case that is a part of my personallity,like everyone person in the world has anoing parts of their carater,so do I-I still think I should be allowd to exist and I think there should be enough room even for persons like me in this world,even though I anoy others unpurposedly.
I should have the right to defend myself and love my self like everyone else,even though I dont have the same abillities as others.
I never say anything to be bad or to hurt anyone ,if I get insulted then I confront them directly in a serious way instead of beeing sarcastic.
When my kid gets older Im going to learn it how to stand up for it self ,how to knowlegde sarcasm and how to deal it:if it is not capable to defend it self verbally then its better to leave or if forced to stay,rather beeing alone then bullied or used.
Its normal to joke.I dont understand when people are beeing sarcastic most of the time,but now Ive learnt that if a person puts a blink-face or toung-face after a text than they meens their kidding.
Like when someone here said to me that the person was a psychopat the person put a XD after the comment.
As we know,parts of childhood are nice memories that feels personal and if somebody insult personal issues than that may hurt.
Like if someone says you looked horrible as a child...or that you where stupid or behavour or things you used to care about was hallirious or hopeless.It still hurt even though you are a grown up.
,and if I had not known that it was a fun-thread then I might have taken it as an insult.
Then i know I could joke back and that the person would not take my answer as an insult.
If a person says something very mildly with a voice that is very considerite and caring Ive learnt that this mean teasing and does not have the purpose of being nasty.
At school I was bullied sarcasticly because of my clothstyle,that I was ugly,my hairdo and such.
When a teacher came along theese kids would put up an angle-apperance and say:we were just kidding!" so that they could get away with their sarcasm.Sarcasm is not a joke!
Its harrazment and bullying.
I find that in daily life many people use sarcsm to freeze people out.
other tactics is ignoration or simply lies.
If your boss comes over and tell you to clean up the floor its natural for you to do that.
Then the boss might bring some coleeges with him stop right in front of you,stare you long in the eyes with the hands on the hips-dominating body-language.
Then the boss says:"I never told you to clean the flor!" in a sweet woice exagerated slow and understanding,as if you are a 3 year old.
"The floor was cleaned yesterday by the cleaning-company."
Then the boss might roll his eyes toward the others descritely.
This makes you look bad in front of your colegues and I guess someone might act this way if they want to get some kind of benefit for it,like if they are afraid you might get a possition in the work place that they wanted.
Or simply make them selfes look better.
Its importent to learn what some else here in the tread about how to recognice if people are being nasty or are just joking,like tone in the voice goes down if its a sarcastic remark or if they roll their eyes.
For some reson i manage to be self-ironic but I dont understand other peoples irony unless they make it really clear.