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Why do the kids have to stay outdoors at school...alone in a corner...
I think there should be done something with this.

erkolos Wrote:
I was bullied in in norwegian primary school. My class was allowed to inside until some other students messed up

So I had to be outside and I was constantly teased by two other pupils.


Well,you are not alone about that...Sad
I think its horrific that the teachers can let kids stay out there totally alone days after days,years after years and nobody does anyting.
It ruins a kids mental helth!!!

erkolos Wrote:
I didn't when I was at primary, but I think aspies who have to stay outside in the breaks should follow a teacher. When I went to primary there were always teachers walking outside in the breaks.


You had luck.
In my school they sat inside, smoking.
Its not like I would suddenly start to socialice with the NTs who bullied me-year after year...a grown up person is good.

Emmy Wrote:

erkolos Wrote:
I didn't when I was at primary, but I think aspies who have to stay outside in the breaks should follow a teacher. When I went to primary there were always teachers walking outside in the breaks.


You had luck.
In my school they sat inside, smoking.
Its not like I would suddenly start to socialice with the NTs who bullied me-year after year...a grown up person is good,but it should be someone who has a great idea of the value of personal values that are different from the norm and knows how to express that to the kid,not like a curebie who kills all optimism for a future in a kid by pushing it to fit in with the NTs by practice and practice.

erkolos Wrote:

Emmy Wrote:
You had luck.
In my school they sat inside, smoking.
Its not like I would suddenly start to socialice with the NTs who bullied me-year after year...a grown up person is good,but it should be someone who has a great idea of the value of personal values that are different from the norm and knows how to express that to the kid,not like a curebie who kills all optimism for a future in a kid by pushing it to fit in with the NTs by practice and practice.

Going around with an adult have often been the best for many aspies, at least that is what older, probably then undiagnosed aspies, have told.

from Bb?

Yupp.
Do you know if there is a standard proseadure for this practise theese days?
Come to fink of it when I was a senior me and two others hung out at lunch with Mr. Pitts, my chem teacher the previous year.

I wonder what it had to do with bullying or the lunch room social scene.  

Thanks Max for providing refuge.  Once or twice Mom had to provide a safe place for the neighbor woman (rural setting in WV, what happens when alcohol and abuse combine)

GuessWho Wrote:
Come to fink of it when I was a senior me and two others hung out at lunch with Mr. Pitts, my chem teacher the previous year.

I wonder what it had to do with bullying or the lunch room social scene.  


In our school you got bullied for hanging out with a teacher.

Max the Bear Wrote:
Emmy, Erk -- do you mean those "forced outside" times like lunch and recess when everyone is supposed to go out and play and socialize?

Nightmares!

I always keep my classroom open so that kids who don't want to go out there can  stay in where it's safe. I know we have three or four other teachers ho do the same. But it's a big school (2,800 students) and the big majority of teachers are what Emmy said -- the "stay in their rooms and smoke" types.

Thank you for taking a teacher-job!
By acting this way you sure make life easier for those kidsSmile

Bless the libraries.

Emmy Wrote:

erkolos Wrote:
I didn't when I was at primary, but I think aspies who have to stay outside in the breaks should follow a teacher. When I went to primary there were always teachers walking outside in the breaks.


You had luck.
In my school they sat inside, smoking.
Its not like I would suddenly start to socialice with the NTs who bullied me-year after year...a grown up person is good.


ive told my son to stay around his helper/helpers at break times-at least then theres a slight chance they will see the other kids hitting josh first instead of the other kids blaming josh for every little scratch or scrape-i dont know if he does hes only 7 so he prob doesnt-but hey at least he does have helpers there.

Strange this thread has suddenly reappeared.  My son's newly rebuilt school is due to open next week and I've been thinking about how more creative the school could be in providing a variety of place for children to go, and things for them to do during playtimes and lunchtimes.  I was thinking along the lines of different, lightly supervised activities, which would provide a variety of more or less active, indoor and outdoor activities.  I know that at the moment one other aspie pupil gets to go and help sort out the books in the library if he finds it too much outside at playtime.

Apart from that, I used to work in an office near a large secondary school and there were always 4 or 5 schoolchildren who used to hang about with the lollipop lady at lunchtime.  She told me it was because they were being bullied. Sad

Marcia Wrote:
Strange this thread has suddenly reappeared.  My son's newly rebuilt school is due to open next week and I've been thinking about how more creative the school could be in providing a variety of place for children to go, and things for them to do during playtimes and lunchtimes.  I was thinking along the lines of different, lightly supervised activities, which would provide a variety of more or less active, indoor and outdoor activities.  I know that at the moment one other aspie pupil gets to go and help sort out the books in the library if he finds it too much outside at playtime.

Apart from that, I used to work in an office near a large secondary school and there were always 4 or 5 schoolchildren who used to hang about with the lollipop lady at lunchtime.  She told me it was because they were being bullied. Sad

this a really good idea and i think that any child should have the option of outside or inside play-maybe some enrichment activities should be in place-i know when my son has to miss a playtime they let him play inside anyway-which i prefere-cos its warmer !!!!!!!!

since he is now in 5th grade - middle school- ds can rush, rush, rush, eat fast (or not eat at all)  so that he can get out of there and go to the library... however, as of late, it has been "not available" this has not only disturbed his routine but now he has nowhere he can go (they don't even have recess) to rejuvenate.  He also constantly talks about getting a break - not a break to sit ona bench, but a time to be physical - like alias pseudonym mentioned, his not being allowed outside actually does make his head hurt....
The above situation - the library not being available - set off a chanin reaction - to his detriment - this week I had decided to show up at lunch time everyday and take him outside to eat (the weather has been very springlike).  This is a temporary - stop gap measure,
Should he have to - go to school - deal with chaos - deal with confused/immature/mean/dopey kids?

honestjohn Wrote:
since he is now in 5th grade - middle school- ds can rush, rush, rush, eat fast (or not eat at all)  so that he can get out of there and go to the library... however, as of late, it has been "not available" this has not only disturbed his routine but now he has nowhere he can go (they don't even have recess) to rejuvenate.  He also constantly talks about getting a break - not a break to sit ona bench, but a time to be physical - like alias pseudonym mentioned, his not being allowed outside actually does make his head hurt....
The above situation - the library not being available - set off a chanin reaction - to his detriment - this week I had decided to show up at lunch time everyday and take him outside to eat (the weather has been very springlike).  This is a temporary - stop gap measure,
Should he have to - go to school - deal with chaos - deal with confused/immature/mean/dopey kids?


he shouldnt have to-learn to socialise etc etc as he hates it, shouldnt have to compromise-if he doesnt want to-shouldnt have to do something he cant do-or his brain wont let him do-my boy shouldnt have to fit in with the "norm"-but it is what is required-and that really eats me away. ( i think im off topic-i do apologise )

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