08-07-2007, 02:21 PM
One of our own, Groovy Druid on WrongPlanet.net, wrote an article on AS, nonverbal communication and success in romantic attraction http://www.wrongplanet.net/article297.html
One of his referenced sources is a book titled The System by Roy Valentine.
The full title of the book suggests a dehumanizing goal with respect to women (and men too).
I purchased all three works Groovy Druid referenced as a prelude before joining E-Harmony. If I have to deal with a woman within face range I want to know how to read her.
But back to Valentine, I don't even need my religion to oppose parts of his thesis, which include
a. sex only is not a favor, Roy
b. neither is encouraging someone to cheat
In grad school I learned a healthy appreciation of the sociological and humanist philosophy of Karl Marx (a dreamer a humanist died poor). Compare to Lenin the rabble rouser and Stalin the butcher.
Marxism is intended to advance the human spirit by doing without certain cultural practices typical to capitalism. Sex for sex sake is one of them. So would be a crowded, dimly lit, noisy bar near Marshall University where I guess the idea was to find someone and leave with him/her for a more sane atmosphere to be alone.
My reaction is
1. what kind of man is that?
2. what kind of woman would want that?
3. Maybe they deserve each other.
When my friends over the mountain of marriage tell me it ain't about the sex, I believe them. Love is the atmosphere that is always there. Love can do most of the work itself. And it makes the rest of it special. I will concede that the short list of celibate marriages in a book (People's Almanac #2) is a cruel kind of starvation.
But I will read the remaining two books when they arrive.
I will read Valentine for the nonverbal aspects of being recognized in a woman's heart. But only in her heart mind you.
One of his referenced sources is a book titled The System by Roy Valentine.
The full title of the book suggests a dehumanizing goal with respect to women (and men too).
I purchased all three works Groovy Druid referenced as a prelude before joining E-Harmony. If I have to deal with a woman within face range I want to know how to read her.
But back to Valentine, I don't even need my religion to oppose parts of his thesis, which include
a. sex only is not a favor, Roy
b. neither is encouraging someone to cheat
In grad school I learned a healthy appreciation of the sociological and humanist philosophy of Karl Marx (a dreamer a humanist died poor). Compare to Lenin the rabble rouser and Stalin the butcher.
Marxism is intended to advance the human spirit by doing without certain cultural practices typical to capitalism. Sex for sex sake is one of them. So would be a crowded, dimly lit, noisy bar near Marshall University where I guess the idea was to find someone and leave with him/her for a more sane atmosphere to be alone.
My reaction is
1. what kind of man is that?
2. what kind of woman would want that?
3. Maybe they deserve each other.
When my friends over the mountain of marriage tell me it ain't about the sex, I believe them. Love is the atmosphere that is always there. Love can do most of the work itself. And it makes the rest of it special. I will concede that the short list of celibate marriages in a book (People's Almanac #2) is a cruel kind of starvation.
But I will read the remaining two books when they arrive.
I will read Valentine for the nonverbal aspects of being recognized in a woman's heart. But only in her heart mind you.