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From the New York Times:

Note: although this does not directly mention AS, the societal dynamics are the same

... Call it the Columbine Syndrome. Ever since the news got out that school shooter Eric Harris was taking Luvox, an antidepressant, kids’ mental illness and eventual mass murder have been linked in the public mind. This past May, the journal Psychiatric Services published the results of the first large-scale nationally representative survey of public attitudes about children’s mental health. Eighty-one percent of respondents said they thought children with major depression would be dangerous to themselves or others; 33 percent said they believed children with A.D.H.D. were likely to be dangerous.

This despite the fact that scientific studies have shown only a modest relationship between mental health issues and violence, “a relationship that is largely attributable to co-occurring substance abuse,” wrote a team of authors led by Bernice A. Pescosolido, a sociologist at Indiana University. “Unfortunately,” they concluded, “public perceptions that mental illness and violence go hand in hand may be more important than the evidence.”

Another study released in March found about one in five parents saying they would not want children with A.D.H.D. or depression as their neighbors, in their child’s classroom or as their child’s friends.

It’s deeply ironic that at a time when more than ever is known about children’s mental health needs and more methods than ever exist to help kids with behavioral or emotional issues, the stigma attached to those problems won’t budge. Instead, our brave new world of diagnosis and treatment has spurred new kinds of myth-making and prejudice. Chief among them is the idea that a diagnosis of A.D.H.D. is an escape hatch for selfish and permissive modern parents who are too lazy to discipline their badly behaved kids and prefer instead to medicate them into compliance.

There are very serious consequences of trivializing conditions like A.D.H.D. There is real harm done by instrumentalizing disorders — whether it’s in the service of a legal defense, as in Komisarjevsky’s case [murder case in which defendant's lawyer blamed ADHD and dyslexia] , or more generally to buttress ideological arguments about the decline of the American family. The more the disorders are banalized or made ridiculous, the more parents and kids dealing with them are stigmatized. The net result of this stigma, according to numerous studies, is that families don’t seek the help they need. And children with A.D.H.D. need help — not because they’re at risk of becoming rapists and arsonists but because, untreated, they’re likely to be in for a lifetime of frustration and unhappiness.

Health officials at a local psychiatric hospital apparently tried once to put Komisarjevsky on antidepressants, but, according to The Times, his parents refused, saying their son needed to deal with his problems “on a spiritual level.” I don’t know whether Komisarjevsky’s behavior stems from sickness or from evil. But I do know there’s something sick, in general,about turning kids with difficulties into actors in the morality play about family life that’s forever being staged in our time.
This is an excellent article - because if you read it with a clear mind, the solution is obvious. Understanding through education.

ADHD has the stigma it has because untreated it can be lead to violence. But it also had a lot of scepticism because there are many parents who don't look after their children properly, and when similar attention deficit issues arise through violence - they seek an ADHD DX instead of trying to rectify the bad behaviour. A lot of ADHD DX's are a result of parents putting pressure on doctors to DX ADHD so the parents can avoid blame for being bad parents. The sooner that is fixed up the better.

It's when doctors don't understand what they are dealing with that the problems come up. ASD's are a great example of this - to some Aspergers have the same "bad parent" stigma as ADHD. There is also the occassional out and out quack who persists is DXing schizophrenia instead of an ASD - something that the DSM-IV and the DSM-IV-TR should have put a stop to.

There isn't any effort to appease any panic that's going on. Look at the media frenzy over steroid rage when wrestler Chris Benoit killed his wife and kid and then committed suicide. As Chris Jericho pointed out on Larry King, caffiene is just as likely to provoke a rage and you don't hear about that do you? It's as though the government doesn't give a stuff - and that's a bad thing. Especially when it comes to properly looking after those in the mental health system, whether it be full blown institutions, or just helping those with mental health issues from a wide range. And of course the old "one size fits all" mentality to save money - which *** well doesn't work!!

As long as we don't take this issue by the scruff of the neck, the stigmas issues that cause panic will never be resolved. And that's bad for us Aspies IMHO.
As someone who was diagnosised with ADHD at age four, This artical makes a lot of since, I do have rage issues and I was diagnosised with Bipolar as well so I was shoved on more medication. D: All in all I feel like my meds are only muzzling me that accually helping and whats worse I've grown dependant on them
Yes, that's a real danger with ADHD meds. It's as though, once a child is medicated, they think the problem is solved!--not so; all you've done is given the child the ability to learn how to solve the problem. You still have to teach them, discipline them, treat them like human beings.
Totally agree with Callista -- when I started ADHD meds, I hoped it would make me magically  organize my desk, keep my checkbook constantly balanced and find my keys. Instead, of course,  it only made me able to do those things -- I still had to learn the self-discipline to actually do them.

rossco

Timelord Wrote:

There isn't any effort to appease any panic that's going on. Look at the media frenzy over steroid rage when wrestler Chris Benoit killed his wife and kid and then committed suicide. As Chris Jericho pointed out on Larry King, caffiene is just as likely to provoke a rage and you don't hear about that do you? It's as though the government doesn't give a stuff - and that's a bad thing. Especially when it comes to properly looking after those in the mental health system, whether it be full blown institutions, or just helping those with mental health issues from a wide range. And of course the old "one size fits all" mentality to save money - which *** well doesn't work!!


I am sorry I am having a little bit of trouble seeing how Chris Benoit's obvious steroid use had any relevance to "Caffeine Rage" (?) or the original topic of "Demonisation of Neurodiversity".

Something that does relate and is interesting is:

Max the Bear Wrote:
Totally agree with Callista -- when I started ADHD meds, I hoped it would make me magically  organize my desk, keep my checkbook constantly balanced and find my keys. Instead, of course,  it only made me able to do those things -- I still had to learn the self-discipline to actually do them.


Thanks Max. I guess it is like my little boys epilepsy. He is not able to do or go places that are likely to induce epilepsy but the meds stop the fits from just occurring in the normal course of the day.

rossco Wrote:
I am sorry I am having a little bit of trouble seeing how Chris Benoit's obvious steroid use had any relevance to "Caffeine Rage" (?) or the original topic of "Demonisation of Neurodiversity".


It was an example of the media panicking over a lack of information, which is relevant to the topic.

And you are guilty of believing the media frenzy (obvious steroid use indeed!). I suggest you go here and look at all six videos (they go together);

http://www.philsworld.com.au/larry_king.htm

rossco

Thanks for clearing that up Timelord. I thought you were insinuating that Chris Benoit's steroids were his medication and.....
Hey, this is ironic this post is up here. I have something that plays right into this issue:

http://www.chillertv.com/Dare_To_Direct/...1429.shtml

Warning: This film is rather graphic and unsettiling. Chiller is a channel that shows horror shows and films. So if that stuff upsets you don't go. Although, I think you should just to see what is making me so mad.

You see the film is little more than hate propaganda towards the neurodiverse. They show the mentally *** character, as being delusional, violent, and remorseless. I fear this film will only spawn more fear of those who are neurodiverse, and thusly more violence/bullying to those who are neurodiverse.

The site's mod, has me on their hate list now. Apperantly they don't see any similarity between Autism and mentally retardation as of their last post. I said, fine you want to ruin Chiller's credibility by all means, no skin off my back. I like the programming on Chiller, I think this is far more important then that though.

This film is like traveling back in time where the mentally ill and neurodiverse were put in homes for the mentally ill. It only seeks to set that mindset, that people who behave Autistically should be feared and put away for society's own good. I want to start a campaign against Chiller, I figure posting here is a good start. I'm going to ask my psychatrist what I can do. I mean, I am not easily offended..but this..is like beyond ignorance. It's hate media.

Timelord Wrote:
ADHD has the stigma it has because untreated it can be lead to violence.


Is that really what you meant to say?  My untreated ADHD does not make me violent.

rossco

No it probably doesn't. Timelord probably didn't "mean "to say LFA's are inherently less intelligent than people with Asperger's either. But he said it,
Don't stress. Timelord is an advocate for autistic rights. Just put your faith in him to represent autistics well.
It's just a very bizarre concept to me.  Attention issues + high energy = violence??  How does that work?  Maybe there are more things that frustrate us than there are for most people, but just like autistic style problems, we're living in a world not designed for us.  That does not mean a person will choose violence.  It's like saying being blind or Deaf can lead to violence.

rossco

No you are right ConLang and it is a bizarre concept. As is that autistics are inherently less intelligent concept is bizarre. I agree with what you were saying. I was not entirely serious about Timelord (I try not to be these days) though he is an autistic advocate.....apparently?

flardox Wrote:

shamshir1218 Wrote:

flardox Wrote:
oh no i have aspergers! run for your lives i have a bomb!!!


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i don't know about you but does this cry fore-sam to any of you? and about the ADHD kids being dangerous i have one thing to say to the parents just because you don't understand something does't give you the right to hate it



Good thing that Aspie you included wasn't Middle Eastern, since it would have made a deeper hole.


probably


Thaaaaatttt's Flardox! LoL

flardox Wrote:

violet_yoshi Wrote:

flardox Wrote:

shamshir1218 Wrote:

flardox Wrote:
oh no i have aspergers! run for your lives i have a bomb!!!


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                                 (sarcasm)

i don't know about you but does this cry fore-sam to any of you? and about the ADHD kids being dangerous i have one thing to say to the parents just because you don't understand something does't give you the right to hate it



Good thing that Aspie you included wasn't Middle Eastern, since it would have made a deeper hole.


probably


Thaaaaatttt's Flardox! LoL


do you mean that in a good way or bad way Tongue


In a good way. Like that's your kind of sarcasm, lol.

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