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Max the Bear Wrote:

SoccerFreak248 Wrote:
I agree, god doesnt exist, either that or he just hates me


Wink That's because your Mom told him you didn't want to spend mornings listening to somebody screaming about sin and damnation. God is very touchy about such things Wink


LOL...ha ha

The truth doesn't always look the same for just two people...

Gareth Wrote:
My god the quality of religious debate has gone downhill.

It was uphill at some point?

Well, at least no one here is strapping on bombs or starting holy wars over the nature of the Trinity...yet.

As for me, I'm a right-of-center libertarian unbeliever (like Dawkins, I find even the "Atheist" label inaccurate and distasteful).  I gave up on religious and political debate ages ago.
The main counteragument of peope who say "God doesn't exist" is "Evil exists". But there are at least two possible counter-arguments to it:

1) God is good, but he gave everything a free will. If there was not evil, thare would be no free will.
2) Does cold exist? NO, it's abscence of warm. When there is no warm, we call it "cold". Does dark exist? NO, it is the abscence of light. We call the places where there is no light "dark places". Does evil exist? NO. Evil is the abscence of God. God is not omnipresent as many religions teach. God is kind of an energy, which always changes its ways. When this energy isn't present somewhere, things which we call "evil" happen.

Ayreon Wrote:
I'm atheist, but i think anyone is in his right of believe anything he want's if that makes him happy


I'm in full agreement with this. I was brought up in a Christian household and I happen to be proud of my grandfather who was a conference president for the Church of Christ for two years running in the early 1960's.

But I am an athiest. Religion does nothing for me, and I hate religious extremism (who doesn't?) whether it be Christian, Muslim or whatever else. I'm a scientific sceptic. Nothing is inexplicable - only unexplained.

What about Cthulhu???........

Ziyaret Wrote:
What about Cthulhu???........


Ia, Ia, Cthulhu Fhatgn... (I watched the movie Dagon the other night -why are movies based on Lovecraft stories always (?) so bad? The Dunwich Horror was semi okay for that time when it was filmed (60ies?)...)

Anyway. We must all give in to Great Cthulhu and go back to the ocean and become fish...

God is very real to some people - he can bring joy and purpose to people's lives.

I believe we need to respect people - and their right to their own individual spiritual beliefs.
God is a reality. The non-existing God is not a reality. God is okay as long as people don't use God as an excuse for their actions.
The issue with Crud420 is that he probably had smoked a lot of weed at the time of posting this thread; and other threads as well...

I think it was Max that suggested this possibility in the first place...
Poor guy, Jesus. He only came once! Santa comes at least once a year...

MissNewZealand Wrote:
Your right about that. God is a merciful God, but I was always told that he punishes for disobedience, thats where I got that from. At home, I always heard statements like "God's going to punish you for feeling/acting that way" or "God will pull his wrath on you".

Noone really wants to debate religion though! I know I dont.

Unfortunately, you were getting told these things at home because your people were on a power trip.

How do we know there really was a "big bang", maybe there was more of a quiet gathering together of particles?
Mm, but I feel it is a theory rather than verifiable fact. I mean, it had to be something dramatic; there wouldn't be much cachet in just having a world slowly coming into being.
Of course, the Biblical 7 days of creation were not necessarily days as we know them now - it could just as easily have referred to 7 definable time periods.
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